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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Dear list, The current practice at our facility is to inspect and clean the objectives of our scopes periodically (approx. once every 2-3 months for each scope) using lens paper wrapped around small clean-room swabs. I had noticed, however, that the field service technicians who run the PMs on our instruments tend to use 100% cotton wool (which I understand to be essentially the same material as your basic 100% cotton ball in the pharmacy) and are able to service our lenses in a much more efficient manner (read: waayyy quicker) than myself using my current methods. In the interests of improving my maintenance efficiency, I've been considering trying this out myself but wanted to check in with the list to see if anyone can share their experiences, insights or advice before proceeding. My main concern is that the cotton might contribute to premature wear on the lens coating. As cleaning solvents, I use either Glass Plus, anhydrous ethanol and/or water. Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Aleksandrs J. Spurmanis Microscopy Specialist Imaging Facility McGill University Life Sciences Complex Francesco Bellini Building 3649 Sir William Osler Suite 137 Montreal, QC H3G 0B1 tel.: (514)-398-5248 fax: (514)-398-7452 [hidden email] http://www.mcgill.ca/lifesciencescomplex/core/imaging/ |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi Aleksandrs, In my place we routinely use Q-tips, now I mean Q-tips and not any other brand. We have gone through many different swabs but nothing compares. I now work in the UK where Q-tips are unavailable so I have to import them at great expense from the US! We clean up residual oil with one end and then mop up with a sparsely methanol soaked tip at the other end. So far I've not seen any degradation. Cheers Neil Come to our Biochemical Society Focused meeting: http://www.biochemistry.org/MeetingNo/SA118/view/Conference/ ================================= Neil M. Kad PhD., Lecturer in Biological Sciences, University of Essex, Colchester, Essex CO4 3SQ, United Kingdom. Tel: +44 (0) 1206 874403 Fax: +44 (0) 1206 872592 http://www.essex.ac.uk/bs/motor_protein/ ================================= > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:03:31 -0400 > From: [hidden email] > Subject: Cotton wool for lens cleaning > To: [hidden email] > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Dear list, > > The current practice at our facility is to inspect and clean the objectives of our scopes periodically (approx. once every 2-3 months for each scope) using lens paper wrapped around small clean-room swabs. I had noticed, however, that the field service technicians who run the PMs on our instruments tend to use 100% cotton wool (which I understand to be essentially the same material as your basic 100% cotton ball in the pharmacy) and are able to service our lenses in a much more efficient manner (read: waayyy quicker) than myself using my current methods. In the interests of improving my maintenance efficiency, I've been considering trying this out myself but wanted to check in with the list to see if anyone can share their experiences, insights or advice before proceeding. My main concern is that the cotton might contribute to premature wear on the lens coating. As cleaning solvents, I use either Glass Plus, anhydrous ethanol and/or water. > > Thanks in advance. > > Sincerely, > > Aleksandrs J. Spurmanis > Microscopy Specialist > Imaging Facility > McGill University Life Sciences Complex > Francesco Bellini Building > 3649 Sir William Osler > Suite 137 > Montreal, QC > H3G 0B1 > tel.: (514)-398-5248 > fax: (514)-398-7452 > [hidden email] > http://www.mcgill.ca/lifesciencescomplex/core/imaging/ |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** On Mar 16, 2011, at 6:16 AM, CONFOCALMICROSCOPY automatic digest system wrote: > > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:03:31 -0400 > From: "Aleksandrs Spurmanis, Mr." <[hidden email]> > Subject: Cotton wool for lens cleaning > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=3Dconfocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Dear list, > > The current practice at our facility is to inspect and clean the objective= > s of our scopes periodically (approx. once every 2-3 months for each scope)= > using lens paper wrapped around small clean-room swabs. I had noticed, ho= > wever, that the field service technicians who run the PMs on our instrument= > s tend to use 100% cotton wool (which I understand to be essentially the sa= > me material as your basic 100% cotton ball in the pharmacy) and are able to= > service our lenses in a much more efficient manner (read: waayyy quicker) = > than myself using my current methods. In the interests of improving my mai= > ntenance efficiency, I've been considering trying this out myself but wante= > d to check in with the list to see if anyone can share their experiences, i= > nsights or advice before proceeding. My main concern is that the cotton mi= > ght contribute to premature wear on the lens coating. As cleaning solvents= > , I use either Glass Plus, anhydrous ethanol and/or water. Here is what we do... https://ifn.mpi-cbg.de/wiki/ifn/index.php/Clean_objective_lens Zeiss and API both use clean cotton wool wrapped onto a wooden stick, self made or commercial versions. If you use these, then only roll the cotton wool over the glass surface - NO SCRUBBING or other aggressive scraping or gouging. Finish off the cleaning using a quality lens cleaning tissue paper - never a kim wipe etc. (contains particles of hard minerals) with 70& ethanol or 4:1 Ether:Ethanol. Some like to use chloroform... but we can't use it outside a fume hood, so its not an option. For Water dipping lenses that go into PBS or other buffers use a tris pH8 buffered 0.5 M EDTA / EGTA solution to dissolve Ca-phosophate residues BEFORE you use a cotton bud or tissue. I find that using a stereo microscope with a ring light around the stereo scope's objective is the only way to really see of the glass surface of the lens is clean. You have to look at it with some magnification with angled illumination to see the dirt. cheers Dan > > Thanks in advance. > > Sincerely, > > Aleksandrs J. Spurmanis > Microscopy Specialist > Imaging Facility > McGill University Life Sciences Complex > Francesco Bellini Building > 3649 Sir William Osler > Suite 137 > Montreal, QC > H3G 0B1 > tel.: (514)-398-5248 > fax: (514)-398-7452 > [hidden email] > http://www.mcgill.ca/lifesciencescomplex/core/imaging/ Dr. Daniel James White BSc. (Hons.) PhD Senior Microscopist / Image Visualisation, Processing and Analysis Light Microscopy and Image Processing Facilities Max Planck Institute of Molecular Cell Biology and Genetics Pfotenhauerstrasse 108 01307 DRESDEN Germany +49 (0)15114966933 (German Mobile) +49 (0)351 210 2627 (Work phone at MPI-CBG) +49 (0)351 210 1078 (Fax MPI-CBG LMF) http://www.bioimagexd.net BioImageXD http://pacific.mpi-cbg.de Fiji - is just ImageJ (Batteries Included) http://www.chalkie.org.uk Dan's Homepages https://ifn.mpi-cbg.de Dresden Imaging Facility Network dan (at) chalkie.org.uk ( white (at) mpi-cbg.de ) |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Colleagues, I would like to report on a discovery that we have made concerning lens cleaning. In our teaching labs, we have a particularly difficult problem with 40x dry lenses that are routinely dipped into oil by inexperienced students. These lenses have a small meniscus front lens element that is very difficult to clean with the conventional methods listed so far. Recently, during a trip to a supermarket, I came across microfiber cleaning cloths designed for glass cleaning that are 80% Polyester and 20% Nylon. The surface of the cloths is tufted, with a fine pile that enters the meniscus and It turns out that the combination of fibers sucks up oil without the need for any other solvents, leaving the lenses remarkably clean. In the past, we have had to remove the lenses to clean them. Now, we can leave them on the scope and essentially wipe them clean. Joel On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Daniel James White <[hidden email]>wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > On Mar 16, 2011, at 6:16 AM, CONFOCALMICROSCOPY automatic digest system > wrote: > > > > > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:03:31 -0400 > > From: "Aleksandrs Spurmanis, Mr." <[hidden email]> > > Subject: Cotton wool for lens cleaning > > > > ***** > > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=3Dconfocalmicroscopy > > ***** > > > > Dear list, > > > > The current practice at our facility is to inspect and clean the > objective= > > s of our scopes periodically (approx. once every 2-3 months for each > scope)= > > using lens paper wrapped around small clean-room swabs. I had noticed, > ho= > > wever, that the field service technicians who run the PMs on our > instrument= > > s tend to use 100% cotton wool (which I understand to be essentially the > sa= > > me material as your basic 100% cotton ball in the pharmacy) and are able > to= > > service our lenses in a much more efficient manner (read: waayyy quicker) > = > > than myself using my current methods. In the interests of improving my > mai= > > ntenance efficiency, I've been considering trying this out myself but > wante= > > d to check in with the list to see if anyone can share their experiences, > i= > > nsights or advice before proceeding. My main concern is that the cotton > mi= > > ght contribute to premature wear on the lens coating. As cleaning > solvents= > > , I use either Glass Plus, anhydrous ethanol and/or water. > > Here is what we do... > > https://ifn.mpi-cbg.de/wiki/ifn/index.php/Clean_objective_lens > > Zeiss and API both use clean cotton wool wrapped onto a wooden stick, > self made or commercial versions. > > If you use these, then only roll the cotton wool over the glass surface - > NO SCRUBBING or other aggressive scraping or gouging. > Finish off the cleaning using a quality lens cleaning tissue paper - never > a kim wipe etc. (contains particles of hard minerals) > with 70& ethanol or 4:1 Ether:Ethanol. > > Some like to use chloroform... but we can't use it outside a fume hood, so > its not an option. > > For Water dipping lenses that go into PBS or other buffers use a tris pH8 > buffered 0.5 M EDTA / EGTA solution to dissolve Ca-phosophate residues > BEFORE you use a cotton bud or tissue. > > I find that using a stereo microscope with a ring light around the stereo > scope's objective > is the only way to really see of the glass surface of the lens is clean. > > You have to look at it with some magnification with angled illumination to > see the dirt. > > cheers > > Dan > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Aleksandrs J. Spurmanis > > Microscopy Specialist > > Imaging Facility > > McGill University Life Sciences Complex > > Francesco Bellini Building > > 3649 Sir William Osler > > Suite 137 > > Montreal, QC > > H3G 0B1 > > tel.: (514)-398-5248 > > fax: (514)-398-7452 > > [hidden email] > > http://www.mcgill.ca/lifesciencescomplex/core/imaging/ > > Dr. Daniel James White BSc. (Hons.) PhD > Senior Microscopist / Image Visualisation, Processing and Analysis > Light Microscopy and Image Processing Facilities > Max Planck Institute of Molecular Cell Biology and Genetics > Pfotenhauerstrasse 108 > 01307 DRESDEN > Germany > > +49 (0)15114966933 (German Mobile) > +49 (0)351 210 2627 (Work phone at MPI-CBG) > +49 (0)351 210 1078 (Fax MPI-CBG LMF) > > http://www.bioimagexd.net BioImageXD > http://pacific.mpi-cbg.de Fiji - is just ImageJ (Batteries > Included) > http://www.chalkie.org.uk Dan's Homepages > https://ifn.mpi-cbg.de Dresden Imaging Facility Network > dan (at) chalkie.org.uk > ( white (at) mpi-cbg.de ) > -- Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D Department of Biology Temple University Philadelphia, PA 19122 Voice: 215 204 8839 e-mail: [hidden email] URL: http://astro.temple.edu/~jbs |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Joel-- Can you provide the brand-name for the product? Thanks-- Martin On 3/16/2011 1:10 PM, JOEL B. SHEFFIELD wrote: > > Colleagues, > > I would like to report on a discovery that we have made concerning lens > cleaning. In our teaching labs, we have a particularly difficult problem > with 40x dry lenses that are routinely dipped into oil by inexperienced > students. These lenses have a small meniscus front lens element that is > very difficult to clean with the conventional methods listed so far. > Recently, during a trip to a supermarket, I came across microfiber cleaning > cloths designed for glass cleaning that are 80% Polyester and 20% Nylon. > The surface of the cloths is tufted, with a fine pile that enters the > meniscus and It turns out that the combination of fibers sucks up oil > without the need for any other solvents, leaving the lenses remarkably > clean. > > In the past, we have had to remove the lenses to clean them. Now, we can > leave them on the scope and essentially wipe them clean. > > Joel -- Martin Wessendorf, Ph.D. office: (612) 626-0145 Assoc Prof, Dept Neuroscience lab: (612) 624-2991 University of Minnesota Preferred FAX: (612) 624-8118 6-145 Jackson Hall, 321 Church St. SE Dept Fax: (612) 626-5009 Minneapolis, MN 55455 e-mail: [hidden email] |
McDonald, David L |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** We use the adhesive free cotton tipped swabs from Puritan. They are available from VWR, catalog# 10806-005. Dave Dave McDonald Scientific Imaging Lab Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center 1100 Fairview Avenue North, DE-512 Seattle, WA 98109 206-667-4205 -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Neil Kad Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 2:58 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi Aleksandrs, In my place we routinely use Q-tips, now I mean Q-tips and not any other brand. We have gone through many different swabs but nothing compares. I now work in the UK where Q-tips are unavailable so I have to import them at great expense from the US! We clean up residual oil with one end and then mop up with a sparsely methanol soaked tip at the other end. So far I've not seen any degradation. Cheers Neil Come to our Biochemical Society Focused meeting: http://www.biochemistry.org/MeetingNo/SA118/view/Conference/ ================================= Neil M. Kad PhD., Lecturer in Biological Sciences, University of Essex, Colchester, Essex CO4 3SQ, United Kingdom. Tel: +44 (0) 1206 874403 Fax: +44 (0) 1206 872592 http://www.essex.ac.uk/bs/motor_protein/ ================================= > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:03:31 -0400 > From: [hidden email] > Subject: Cotton wool for lens cleaning > To: [hidden email] > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Dear list, > > The current practice at our facility is to inspect and clean the each scope) using lens paper wrapped around small clean-room swabs. I had noticed, however, that the field service technicians who run the PMs on our instruments tend to use 100% cotton wool (which I understand to be essentially the same material as your basic 100% cotton ball in the pharmacy) and are able to service our lenses in a much more efficient manner (read: waayyy quicker) than myself using my current methods. In the interests of improving my maintenance efficiency, I've been considering trying this out myself but wanted to check in with the list to see if anyone can share their experiences, insights or advice before proceeding. My main concern is that the cotton might contribute to premature wear on the lens coating. As cleaning solvents, I use either Glass Plus, anhydrous ethanol and/or water. > > Thanks in advance. > > Sincerely, > > Aleksandrs J. Spurmanis > Microscopy Specialist > Imaging Facility > McGill University Life Sciences Complex > Francesco Bellini Building > 3649 Sir William Osler > Suite 137 > Montreal, QC > H3G 0B1 > tel.: (514)-398-5248 > fax: (514)-398-7452 > [hidden email] > http://www.mcgill.ca/lifesciencescomplex/core/imaging/ |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Sure. I was a little embarrassed. The company is "Quickie", based in Pennsauken, New Jersey. They make, or distribute many cleaning supplies. You can reach them at [hidden email]. Here's a link to the product. http://quickie.com/Public/Products/Default.aspx?UID=&ProductCategoryId=81&ProductId=338 On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Martin Wessendorf <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Joel-- > > Can you provide the brand-name for the product? > > Thanks-- > > Martin > > > On 3/16/2011 1:10 PM, JOEL B. SHEFFIELD wrote: > >> >> Colleagues, >> >> I would like to report on a discovery that we have made concerning lens >> cleaning. In our teaching labs, we have a particularly difficult problem >> with 40x dry lenses that are routinely dipped into oil by inexperienced >> students. These lenses have a small meniscus front lens element that is >> very difficult to clean with the conventional methods listed so far. >> Recently, during a trip to a supermarket, I came across microfiber >> cleaning >> cloths designed for glass cleaning that are 80% Polyester and 20% Nylon. >> The surface of the cloths is tufted, with a fine pile that enters the >> meniscus and It turns out that the combination of fibers sucks up oil >> without the need for any other solvents, leaving the lenses remarkably >> clean. >> >> In the past, we have had to remove the lenses to clean them. Now, we can >> leave them on the scope and essentially wipe them clean. >> >> Joel >> > > -- > Martin Wessendorf, Ph.D. office: (612) 626-0145 > Assoc Prof, Dept Neuroscience lab: (612) 624-2991 > University of Minnesota Preferred FAX: (612) 624-8118 > 6-145 Jackson Hall, 321 Church St. SE Dept Fax: (612) 626-5009 > Minneapolis, MN 55455 e-mail: [hidden email] > -- Joel B. Sheffield, Ph.D Department of Biology Temple University Philadelphia, PA 19122 Voice: 215 204 8839 e-mail: [hidden email] URL: http://astro.temple.edu/~jbs |
Cheng, Ji-xin |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Registration is now open for the Multimodal Nonlinear Optical Microscopy Workshop July 14 - 16, 2011 Weldon School of Biomedical Engineering, Purdue University This will be the first workshop that various modalities of nonlinear optical microscopy are introduced in a one-day symposium and practiced on state-of-the-art microscopes. Cutting-edge developments and applications will be shown by lectures on July 14. Hands-on training will be provided on July 15 to assist the trainees to build and/or use nonlinear optical microscopy. As an optional opportunity, the trainees can test their own samples on the morning of July 16. Lectures will be given by the following leaders and experts: Professor Sunney Xie (keynote), Harvard University, "Stimulated Raman Scattering Microscopy: Instrumentation and Application" Professor Paul Campagnola, University of Wisconsin at Madison, "Second Harmonic Generation Microscopy: Instrumentation and Applications" Professor Eric Potma, UC Irvine, "Coherent Anti-Stokes Raman Scattering and Four-Wave Mixing Microscopy" Professor Kenneth Dunn, Indiana University School of Medicine, "Multiphoton Microscopy for In Vivo Imaging" Professor Chris Xu, Cornell University, "Deep Tissue Imaging and Multiphoton Endoscopy" Professor Ji-Xin Cheng, Purdue University, "Multimodal NLO Microscopy: Instrumentation and Applications" Professor Garth Simpson, Purdue University, "Quantitative SHG Microscopy and Crystallization Imaging" Professor Michael Sturek, Indiana University School of Medicine, "Bond-selective Imaging of Atherosclerosis" The lab section will be performed on state-of-the-art NLO imaging setups, including FV1000 microscopes, APE OPO pumped by Chameleon, Inspire OPO pumped by Mai Tai, and PCF fiber. Topics include ex vivo imaging of tissues, fingerprint spectral analysis, and in vivo multimodal NLO imaging. Applicants from academia, government, and industry from all countries are welcome. Registration deadline is Friday, June 17, 2011. Online registration can be found at www.conf.purdue.edu/nlo. We hope to see you this summer at Purdue! Ji-Xin Cheng, Associate Professor Weldon School of Biomedical Engineering and Department of Chemistry Purdue University Tel 765 494 4335 Fax 765 496 1912 https://engineering.purdue.edu/BME/Research/Labs/Cheng http://www.chem.purdue.edu/jcheng/ Sponsored by Purdue University Weldon School of Biomedical Engineering, Bindley Bioscience Center, Olympus Inc, Coherent, and Newport/Spectra-Physics |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi Aleksandrs, I like to use the method where you clean the lenses without touching them. I learned this from Karl Aufderheide when he was showing this trick to my LM course students. 1. Don't touch anything (even lens paper) to a lens surface except as a last resort. Avoid especially commercial facial or bathroom tissue because it could contain diatom frustules (glass!) as a filler. One pass of a kleenex over a lens could possibly ruin it! 2. Hold a piece of lens paper or other tissue over a lens. Place a few drops of ethyl ether on the paper and draw the paper across the lens surface so that the ether flows rapidly in a circular pattern over the recessed lens surface. In this way, the ether contacts the lens but the paper does not, because the lens is recessed. 3. Inspect the lens using an inverted ocular as a magnifier. Repeat the ether wash if necessary. 4. If ether does not remove the dirt, try first distilled water, then chloroform, then xylene or benzene, in that order. If all else fails, try a 1:1:1 mixture of water, alcohol and chloroform shaken just before use. Follow with an ether wash. 5. For stubborn dirt (e.g., on old student microscopes) use the above solvents on a clean Q-tip. Because of safety concerns with ether (formation of explosive peroxides), I just get a fresh bottle every 6 months, and dispose of the old one through our Hazardous Waste program. Stan Vitha Microscopy and Imaging Center Texas A&M University On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:03:31 -0400, Aleksandrs Spurmanis, Mr. <[hidden email]> wrote: >Dear list, > >The current practice at our facility is to inspect and clean the objectives of our scopes periodically (approx. once every 2-3 months for each scope) using lens paper wrapped around small clean-room swabs. I had noticed, however, that the field service technicians who run the PMs on our instruments tend to use 100% cotton wool (which I understand to be essentially the same material as your basic 100% cotton ball in the pharmacy) and are able to service our lenses in a much more efficient manner (read: waayyy quicker) than myself using my current methods. In the interests of improving my maintenance efficiency, I've been considering trying this out myself but wanted to check in with the list to see if anyone can share their experiences, insights or advice before proceeding. My main concern is that the cotton might contribute to premature wear on the lens coating. As cleaning solvents, I use either Glass Plus, anhydrous ethanol and/or water. > >Thanks in advance. > >Sincerely, > >Aleksandrs J. Spurmanis >Microscopy Specialist >Imaging Facility >McGill University Life Sciences Complex >Francesco Bellini Building >3649 Sir William Osler >Suite 137 >Montreal, QC >H3G 0B1 >tel.: (514)-398-5248 >fax: (514)-398-7452 >[hidden email] >http://www.mcgill.ca/lifesciencescomplex/core/imaging/ |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Dear All, The one thing I noticed from the original post, but hasn't been commented upon yet: the original poster only cleans the lenses every 2-3 MONTHS. I find this very infrequent, we clean and check our lenses at least once every two weeks, and would be much happier if we could afford the time to do this weekly. How often do the others do this? BTW, we also use cotton buds (Q-Tips or similar) with isopropanol on Leica oil lenses, or water and then ethanol on water lenses, whilst observing the front surface via either an inverted ocular or a small prep-scope. We also check the back surface, usually nothing to clean there, although once I found a big, greasy fingerprint on the back lens of a 20x multi-immersion Leica objective! I would be very interested in hearing from you all about how you compare the quality of various brands of cotton buds? Amongst other properties, I e.g. look for proper softness (not too soft or hard when dipped into isopropanol e.g.), and for one that leaves no residual fibers. What do others look for in their chosen cotton brand(s)? Thanks, and best wishes to all, Zoltan MDC-Berlin Confocal and 2-Photon Core Facility On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Stanislav Vitha <[hidden email]>wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Hi Aleksandrs, > > I like to use the method where you clean the lenses without touching them. > I learned this from Karl Aufderheide when he was showing this trick to my > LM > course students. > > 1. Don't touch anything (even lens paper) to a lens surface except as a > last > resort. Avoid especially commercial facial or bathroom tissue because it > could > contain diatom frustules (glass!) as a filler. One pass of a kleenex over a > lens > could possibly ruin it! > 2. Hold a piece of lens paper or other tissue over a lens. Place a few > drops of > ethyl ether on the paper and draw the paper across the lens surface so that > the ether flows rapidly in a circular pattern over the recessed lens > surface. In > this way, the ether contacts the lens but the paper does not, because the > lens is recessed. > 3. Inspect the lens using an inverted ocular as a magnifier. Repeat the > ether > wash if necessary. > 4. If ether does not remove the dirt, try first distilled water, then > chloroform, > then xylene or benzene, in that order. If all else fails, try a 1:1:1 > mixture of > water, alcohol and chloroform shaken just before use. Follow with an ether > wash. > 5. For stubborn dirt (e.g., on old student microscopes) use the above > solvents > on a clean Q-tip. > > > Because of safety concerns with ether (formation of explosive peroxides), I > just get a fresh bottle every 6 months, and dispose of the old one through > our > Hazardous Waste program. > > Stan Vitha > Microscopy and Imaging Center > Texas A&M University > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:03:31 -0400, Aleksandrs Spurmanis, Mr. > <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >Dear list, > > > >The current practice at our facility is to inspect and clean the > objectives of > our scopes periodically (approx. once every 2-3 months for each scope) > using > lens paper wrapped around small clean-room swabs. I had noticed, however, > that the field service technicians who run the PMs on our instruments tend > to > use 100% cotton wool (which I understand to be essentially the same > material > as your basic 100% cotton ball in the pharmacy) and are able to service our > lenses in a much more efficient manner (read: waayyy quicker) than myself > using my current methods. In the interests of improving my maintenance > efficiency, I've been considering trying this out myself but wanted to > check in > with the list to see if anyone can share their experiences, insights or > advice > before proceeding. My main concern is that the cotton might contribute to > premature wear on the lens coating. As cleaning solvents, I use either > Glass > Plus, anhydrous ethanol and/or water. > > > >Thanks in advance. > > > >Sincerely, > > > >Aleksandrs J. Spurmanis > >Microscopy Specialist > >Imaging Facility > >McGill University Life Sciences Complex > >Francesco Bellini Building > >3649 Sir William Osler > >Suite 137 > >Montreal, QC > >H3G 0B1 > >tel.: (514)-398-5248 > >fax: (514)-398-7452 > >[hidden email] > >http://www.mcgill.ca/lifesciencescomplex/core/imaging/ > -- Zoltan Cseresnyes -------------------------------------------- Q: Why is this email four sentences or less? A: http://four.sentenc.es |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Long ago we taught using ether in the fashion described here. Ether is very flammable. It is also not good for you. So even if it works well it is not a recommended method. Nina Allen Professor Emerita Department of Plant Biology North Carolina State University Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Stanislav Vitha <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Hi Aleksandrs, > > I like to use the method where you clean the lenses without touching them. > I learned this from Karl Aufderheide when he was showing this trick to my LM > course students. > > 1. Don't touch anything (even lens paper) to a lens surface except as a last > resort. Avoid especially commercial facial or bathroom tissue because it could > contain diatom frustules (glass!) as a filler. One pass of a kleenex over a lens > could possibly ruin it! > 2. Hold a piece of lens paper or other tissue over a lens. Place a few drops of > ethyl ether on the paper and draw the paper across the lens surface so that > the ether flows rapidly in a circular pattern over the recessed lens surface. In > this way, the ether contacts the lens but the paper does not, because the > lens is recessed. > 3. Inspect the lens using an inverted ocular as a magnifier. Repeat the ether > wash if necessary. > 4. If ether does not remove the dirt, try first distilled water, then chloroform, > then xylene or benzene, in that order. If all else fails, try a 1:1:1 mixture of > water, alcohol and chloroform shaken just before use. Follow with an ether > wash. > 5. For stubborn dirt (e.g., on old student microscopes) use the above solvents > on a clean Q-tip. > > > Because of safety concerns with ether (formation of explosive peroxides), I > just get a fresh bottle every 6 months, and dispose of the old one through our > Hazardous Waste program. > > Stan Vitha > Microscopy and Imaging Center > Texas A&M University > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:03:31 -0400, Aleksandrs Spurmanis, Mr. > <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Dear list, >> >> The current practice at our facility is to inspect and clean the objectives of > our scopes periodically (approx. once every 2-3 months for each scope) using > lens paper wrapped around small clean-room swabs. I had noticed, however, > that the field service technicians who run the PMs on our instruments tend to > use 100% cotton wool (which I understand to be essentially the same material > as your basic 100% cotton ball in the pharmacy) and are able to service our > lenses in a much more efficient manner (read: waayyy quicker) than myself > using my current methods. In the interests of improving my maintenance > efficiency, I've been considering trying this out myself but wanted to check in > with the list to see if anyone can share their experiences, insights or advice > before proceeding. My main concern is that the cotton might contribute to > premature wear on the lens coating. As cleaning solvents, I use either Glass > Plus, anhydrous ethanol and/or water. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Aleksandrs J. Spurmanis >> Microscopy Specialist >> Imaging Facility >> McGill University Life Sciences Complex >> Francesco Bellini Building >> 3649 Sir William Osler >> Suite 137 >> Montreal, QC >> H3G 0B1 >> tel.: (514)-398-5248 >> fax: (514)-398-7452 >> [hidden email] >> http://www.mcgill.ca/lifesciencescomplex/core/imaging/ |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Are you certain about ether being toxic? I seem to remember reading that ether was just about the safest anaesthetic there is, and the only reason it isn't used more widely is its flammability. Guy Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology by Guy Cox CRC Press / Taylor & Francis http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm ______________________________________________ Associate Professor Guy Cox, MA, DPhil(Oxon) Electron Microscope Unit, Madsen Building F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006 ______________________________________________ Phone +61 2 9351 3176 Fax +61 2 9351 7682 Mobile 0413 281 861 ______________________________________________ http://www.guycox.net ________________________________ From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Nina Allen Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:23 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Long ago we taught using ether in the fashion described here. Ether is very flammable. It is also not good for you. So even if it works well it is not a recommended method. Nina Allen Professor Emerita Department of Plant Biology North Carolina State University Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Stanislav Vitha <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Hi Aleksandrs, > > I like to use the method where you clean the lenses without touching them. > I learned this from Karl Aufderheide when he was showing this trick to my LM > course students. > > 1. Don't touch anything (even lens paper) to a lens surface except as a last > resort. Avoid especially commercial facial or bathroom tissue because it could > contain diatom frustules (glass!) as a filler. One pass of a kleenex over a lens > could possibly ruin it! > 2. Hold a piece of lens paper or other tissue over a lens. Place a few drops of > ethyl ether on the paper and draw the paper across the lens surface so that > the ether flows rapidly in a circular pattern over the recessed lens surface. In > this way, the ether contacts the lens but the paper does not, because the > lens is recessed. > 3. Inspect the lens using an inverted ocular as a magnifier. Repeat the ether > wash if necessary. > 4. If ether does not remove the dirt, try first distilled water, then chloroform, > then xylene or benzene, in that order. If all else fails, try a 1:1:1 mixture of > water, alcohol and chloroform shaken just before use. Follow with an ether > wash. > 5. For stubborn dirt (e.g., on old student microscopes) use the above solvents > on a clean Q-tip. > > > Because of safety concerns with ether (formation of explosive peroxides), I > just get a fresh bottle every 6 months, and dispose of the old one through our > Hazardous Waste program. > > Stan Vitha > Microscopy and Imaging Center > Texas A&M University > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:03:31 -0400, Aleksandrs Spurmanis, Mr. > <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Dear list, >> >> The current practice at our facility is to inspect and clean the > our scopes periodically (approx. once every 2-3 months for each scope) using > lens paper wrapped around small clean-room swabs. I had noticed, however, > that the field service technicians who run the PMs on our instruments tend to > use 100% cotton wool (which I understand to be essentially the same material > as your basic 100% cotton ball in the pharmacy) and are able to service our > lenses in a much more efficient manner (read: waayyy quicker) than myself > using my current methods. In the interests of improving my maintenance > efficiency, I've been considering trying this out myself but wanted to check in > with the list to see if anyone can share their experiences, insights or advice > before proceeding. My main concern is that the cotton might contribute to > premature wear on the lens coating. As cleaning solvents, I use either Glass > Plus, anhydrous ethanol and/or water. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Aleksandrs J. Spurmanis >> Microscopy Specialist >> Imaging Facility >> McGill University Life Sciences Complex >> Francesco Bellini Building >> 3649 Sir William Osler >> Suite 137 >> Montreal, QC >> H3G 0B1 >> tel.: (514)-398-5248 >> fax: (514)-398-7452 >> [hidden email] >> http://www.mcgill.ca/lifesciencescomplex/core/imaging/ ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** From the MSDS Extremely flammable liquid and vapour * Harmful if swallowed * Causes mild skin irritation * Causes serious eye irritation * Harmful to terrestrial vertebrates Thanks Ray -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Guy Cox Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 3:29 p.m. To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Are you certain about ether being toxic? I seem to remember reading that ether was just about the safest anaesthetic there is, and the only reason it isn't used more widely is its flammability. Guy Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology by Guy Cox CRC Press / Taylor & Francis http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm ______________________________________________ Associate Professor Guy Cox, MA, DPhil(Oxon) Electron Microscope Unit, Madsen Building F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006 ______________________________________________ Phone +61 2 9351 3176 Fax +61 2 9351 7682 Mobile 0413 281 861 ______________________________________________ http://www.guycox.net ________________________________ From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Nina Allen Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:23 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Long ago we taught using ether in the fashion described here. Ether is very flammable. It is also not good for you. So even if it works well it is not a recommended method. Nina Allen Professor Emerita Department of Plant Biology North Carolina State University Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Stanislav Vitha <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Hi Aleksandrs, > > I like to use the method where you clean the lenses without touching them. > I learned this from Karl Aufderheide when he was showing this trick to my LM > course students. > > 1. Don't touch anything (even lens paper) to a lens surface except as a last > resort. Avoid especially commercial facial or bathroom tissue because it could > contain diatom frustules (glass!) as a filler. One pass of a kleenex over a lens > could possibly ruin it! > 2. Hold a piece of lens paper or other tissue over a lens. Place a few drops of > ethyl ether on the paper and draw the paper across the lens surface so that > the ether flows rapidly in a circular pattern over the recessed lens surface. In > this way, the ether contacts the lens but the paper does not, because the > lens is recessed. > 3. Inspect the lens using an inverted ocular as a magnifier. Repeat the ether > wash if necessary. > 4. If ether does not remove the dirt, try first distilled water, then chloroform, > then xylene or benzene, in that order. If all else fails, try a 1:1:1 mixture of > water, alcohol and chloroform shaken just before use. Follow with an ether > wash. > 5. For stubborn dirt (e.g., on old student microscopes) use the above solvents > on a clean Q-tip. > > > Because of safety concerns with ether (formation of explosive peroxides), I > just get a fresh bottle every 6 months, and dispose of the old one through our > Hazardous Waste program. > > Stan Vitha > Microscopy and Imaging Center > Texas A&M University > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:03:31 -0400, Aleksandrs Spurmanis, Mr. > <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Dear list, >> >> The current practice at our facility is to inspect and clean the > our scopes periodically (approx. once every 2-3 months for each scope) using > lens paper wrapped around small clean-room swabs. I had noticed, however, > that the field service technicians who run the PMs on our instruments tend to > use 100% cotton wool (which I understand to be essentially the same material > as your basic 100% cotton ball in the pharmacy) and are able to service our > lenses in a much more efficient manner (read: waayyy quicker) than myself > using my current methods. In the interests of improving my maintenance > efficiency, I've been considering trying this out myself but wanted to check in > with the list to see if anyone can share their experiences, insights or advice > before proceeding. My main concern is that the cotton might contribute to > premature wear on the lens coating. As cleaning solvents, I use either Glass > Plus, anhydrous ethanol and/or water. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Aleksandrs J. Spurmanis >> Microscopy Specialist >> Imaging Facility >> McGill University Life Sciences Complex >> Francesco Bellini Building >> 3649 Sir William Osler >> Suite 137 >> Montreal, QC >> H3G 0B1 >> tel.: (514)-398-5248 >> fax: (514)-398-7452 >> [hidden email] >> http://www.mcgill.ca/lifesciencescomplex/core/imaging/ ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** In other words, pretty innocuous if inhaled. (Unless it puts you out and you hit your head on the microscope!) Guy Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology by Guy Cox CRC Press / Taylor & Francis http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm ______________________________________________ Associate Professor Guy Cox, MA, DPhil(Oxon) Electron Microscope Unit, Madsen Building F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006 ______________________________________________ Phone +61 2 9351 3176 Fax +61 2 9351 7682 Mobile 0413 281 861 ______________________________________________ http://www.guycox.net ________________________________ From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ray Gilbert Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 1:38 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** From the MSDS Extremely flammable liquid and vapour * Harmful if swallowed * Causes mild skin irritation * Causes serious eye irritation * Harmful to terrestrial vertebrates Thanks Ray -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Guy Cox Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 3:29 p.m. To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Are you certain about ether being toxic? I seem to remember reading that ether was just about the safest anaesthetic there is, and the only reason it isn't used more widely is its flammability. Guy Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology by Guy Cox CRC Press / Taylor & Francis http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm ______________________________________________ Associate Professor Guy Cox, MA, DPhil(Oxon) Electron Microscope Unit, Madsen Building F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006 ______________________________________________ Phone +61 2 9351 3176 Fax +61 2 9351 7682 Mobile 0413 281 861 ______________________________________________ http://www.guycox.net ________________________________ From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Nina Allen Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:23 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Long ago we taught using ether in the fashion described here. Ether is very flammable. It is also not good for you. So even if it works well it is not a recommended method. Nina Allen Professor Emerita Department of Plant Biology North Carolina State University Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Stanislav Vitha <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Hi Aleksandrs, > > I like to use the method where you clean the lenses without touching them. > I learned this from Karl Aufderheide when he was showing this trick to my LM > course students. > > 1. Don't touch anything (even lens paper) to a lens surface except as a last > resort. Avoid especially commercial facial or bathroom tissue because it could > contain diatom frustules (glass!) as a filler. One pass of a kleenex over a lens > could possibly ruin it! > 2. Hold a piece of lens paper or other tissue over a lens. Place a few drops of > ethyl ether on the paper and draw the paper across the lens surface so that > the ether flows rapidly in a circular pattern over the recessed lens surface. In > this way, the ether contacts the lens but the paper does not, because the > lens is recessed. > 3. Inspect the lens using an inverted ocular as a magnifier. Repeat the ether > wash if necessary. > 4. If ether does not remove the dirt, try first distilled water, then chloroform, > then xylene or benzene, in that order. If all else fails, try a 1:1:1 mixture of > water, alcohol and chloroform shaken just before use. Follow with an ether > wash. > 5. For stubborn dirt (e.g., on old student microscopes) use the above solvents > on a clean Q-tip. > > > Because of safety concerns with ether (formation of explosive peroxides), I > just get a fresh bottle every 6 months, and dispose of the old one through our > Hazardous Waste program. > > Stan Vitha > Microscopy and Imaging Center > Texas A&M University > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:03:31 -0400, Aleksandrs Spurmanis, Mr. > <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Dear list, >> >> The current practice at our facility is to inspect and clean the > our scopes periodically (approx. once every 2-3 months for each scope) using > lens paper wrapped around small clean-room swabs. I had noticed, however, > that the field service technicians who run the PMs on our instruments tend to > use 100% cotton wool (which I understand to be essentially the same material > as your basic 100% cotton ball in the pharmacy) and are able to service our > lenses in a much more efficient manner (read: waayyy quicker) than myself > using my current methods. In the interests of improving my maintenance > efficiency, I've been considering trying this out myself but wanted to check in > with the list to see if anyone can share their experiences, insights or advice > before proceeding. My main concern is that the cotton might contribute to > premature wear on the lens coating. As cleaning solvents, I use either Glass > Plus, anhydrous ethanol and/or water. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Aleksandrs J. Spurmanis >> Microscopy Specialist >> Imaging Facility >> McGill University Life Sciences Complex >> Francesco Bellini Building >> 3649 Sir William Osler >> Suite 137 >> Montreal, QC >> H3G 0B1 >> tel.: (514)-398-5248 >> fax: (514)-398-7452 >> [hidden email] >> http://www.mcgill.ca/lifesciencescomplex/core/imaging/ ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** You are right re ether. There was a study , now discredited, that nurse anesthetists had more miscarriages. My daughter, the anesthesiologist, tells me explosions is the danger. There is one reputable report that glycol ether used for cleaning in factories will cause miscarriage increase. Just don't breathe too much and faint. If pregnant don't use it to be on the safe side. Nina Allen Professor Emerita Department of Plant Biology North Carolina State University Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Guy Cox <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > In other words, pretty innocuous if inhaled. (Unless it puts you out > and you hit your head on the microscope!) > > > > Guy > > > > Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology > by Guy Cox CRC Press / Taylor & Francis > http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm > ______________________________________________ > Associate Professor Guy Cox, MA, DPhil(Oxon) > Electron Microscope Unit, Madsen Building F09, > University of Sydney, NSW 2006 > ______________________________________________ > Phone +61 2 9351 3176 Fax +61 2 9351 7682 > Mobile 0413 281 861 > ______________________________________________ > http://www.guycox.net > > > ________________________________ > > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Ray Gilbert > Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 1:38 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning > > > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > From the MSDS > > Extremely flammable liquid and vapour > > * Harmful if swallowed > > * Causes mild skin irritation > > * Causes serious eye irritation > > * Harmful to terrestrial vertebrates > > > Thanks > > Ray > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Guy Cox > Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 3:29 p.m. > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Are you certain about ether being toxic? I seem to remember reading > that ether was just about the safest anaesthetic there is, and the only > reason it isn't used more widely is its flammability. > > > > Guy > > > > Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology > by Guy Cox CRC Press / Taylor & Francis > http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm > ______________________________________________ > Associate Professor Guy Cox, MA, DPhil(Oxon) > Electron Microscope Unit, Madsen Building F09, > University of Sydney, NSW 2006 > ______________________________________________ > Phone +61 2 9351 3176 Fax +61 2 9351 7682 > Mobile 0413 281 861 > ______________________________________________ > http://www.guycox.net > > > ________________________________ > > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Nina Allen > Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:23 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning > > > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Long ago we taught using ether in the fashion described here. Ether is > very flammable. It is also not good for you. > So even if it works well it is not a recommended method. > > Nina Allen > Professor Emerita > Department of Plant Biology > North Carolina State University > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 16, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Stanislav Vitha <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> ***** >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >> ***** >> >> Hi Aleksandrs, >> >> I like to use the method where you clean the lenses without touching > them. >> I learned this from Karl Aufderheide when he was showing this trick to > my LM >> course students. >> >> 1. Don't touch anything (even lens paper) to a lens surface except as > a last >> resort. Avoid especially commercial facial or bathroom tissue because > it could >> contain diatom frustules (glass!) as a filler. One pass of a kleenex > over a lens >> could possibly ruin it! >> 2. Hold a piece of lens paper or other tissue over a lens. Place a few > drops of >> ethyl ether on the paper and draw the paper across the lens surface so > that >> the ether flows rapidly in a circular pattern over the recessed lens > surface. In >> this way, the ether contacts the lens but the paper does not, because > the >> lens is recessed. >> 3. Inspect the lens using an inverted ocular as a magnifier. Repeat > the ether >> wash if necessary. >> 4. If ether does not remove the dirt, try first distilled water, then > chloroform, >> then xylene or benzene, in that order. If all else fails, try a 1:1:1 > mixture of >> water, alcohol and chloroform shaken just before use. Follow with an > ether >> wash. >> 5. For stubborn dirt (e.g., on old student microscopes) use the above > solvents >> on a clean Q-tip. >> >> >> Because of safety concerns with ether (formation of explosive > peroxides), I >> just get a fresh bottle every 6 months, and dispose of the old one > through our >> Hazardous Waste program. >> >> Stan Vitha >> Microscopy and Imaging Center >> Texas A&M University >> >> On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:03:31 -0400, Aleksandrs Spurmanis, Mr. >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Dear list, >>> >>> The current practice at our facility is to inspect and clean the > objectives of >> our scopes periodically (approx. once every 2-3 months for each scope) > using >> lens paper wrapped around small clean-room swabs. I had noticed, > however, >> that the field service technicians who run the PMs on our instruments > tend to >> use 100% cotton wool (which I understand to be essentially the same > material >> as your basic 100% cotton ball in the pharmacy) and are able to > service our >> lenses in a much more efficient manner (read: waayyy quicker) than > myself >> using my current methods. In the interests of improving my > maintenance >> efficiency, I've been considering trying this out myself but wanted to > check in >> with the list to see if anyone can share their experiences, insights > or advice >> before proceeding. My main concern is that the cotton might > contribute to >> premature wear on the lens coating. As cleaning solvents, I use > either Glass >> Plus, anhydrous ethanol and/or water. >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Aleksandrs J. Spurmanis >>> Microscopy Specialist >>> Imaging Facility >>> McGill University Life Sciences Complex >>> Francesco Bellini Building >>> 3649 Sir William Osler >>> Suite 137 >>> Montreal, QC >>> H3G 0B1 >>> tel.: (514)-398-5248 >>> fax: (514)-398-7452 >>> [hidden email] >>> http://www.mcgill.ca/lifesciencescomplex/core/imaging/ > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** I must admit that I haven't had any reason to use anything other than traditional lens tissue for cleaning but was always under the impression that q-tips and cotton-wool balls were not going to damage the lens and it was more to avoid leaving cotton fibres on lenses than any damage they could do. As for cleaning solutions I have always used iso-propanol for the harder to clean lenses since it doesn't leave streaks like some other solvents and as far as I can tell from the literature I have seen it doesn't have any detrimental effects on the lenses themselves (in fact most commercial products have some iso-propanol in them anyway). Could be another option. Mark Scott FILM - Facility for Imaging by Light Microscopy Senior Research Technician Sir Alexander Fleming Building, desk 408 Imperial College London / South Kensington Exhibition Road London SW7 2AZ UK Tel: ++44(0)20-759-49793 E-mail: [hidden email] Website: http://imperial.ac.uk/imagingfacility -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Nina Allen Sent: 17 March 2011 03:26 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** You are right re ether. There was a study , now discredited, that nurse anesthetists had more miscarriages. My daughter, the anesthesiologist, tells me explosions is the danger. There is one reputable report that glycol ether used for cleaning in factories will cause miscarriage increase. Just don't breathe too much and faint. If pregnant don't use it to be on the safe side. Nina Allen Professor Emerita Department of Plant Biology North Carolina State University Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Guy Cox <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > In other words, pretty innocuous if inhaled. (Unless it puts you out > and you hit your head on the microscope!) > > > > Guy > > > > Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology > by Guy Cox CRC Press / Taylor & Francis > http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm > ______________________________________________ > Associate Professor Guy Cox, MA, DPhil(Oxon) > Electron Microscope Unit, Madsen Building F09, > University of Sydney, NSW 2006 > ______________________________________________ > Phone +61 2 9351 3176 Fax +61 2 9351 7682 > Mobile 0413 281 861 > ______________________________________________ > http://www.guycox.net > > > ________________________________ > > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Ray Gilbert > Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 1:38 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning > > > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > From the MSDS > > Extremely flammable liquid and vapour > > * Harmful if swallowed > > * Causes mild skin irritation > > * Causes serious eye irritation > > * Harmful to terrestrial vertebrates > > > Thanks > > Ray > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Guy Cox > Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 3:29 p.m. > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Are you certain about ether being toxic? I seem to remember reading > that ether was just about the safest anaesthetic there is, and the only > reason it isn't used more widely is its flammability. > > > > Guy > > > > Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology > by Guy Cox CRC Press / Taylor & Francis > http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm > ______________________________________________ > Associate Professor Guy Cox, MA, DPhil(Oxon) > Electron Microscope Unit, Madsen Building F09, > University of Sydney, NSW 2006 > ______________________________________________ > Phone +61 2 9351 3176 Fax +61 2 9351 7682 > Mobile 0413 281 861 > ______________________________________________ > http://www.guycox.net > > > ________________________________ > > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Nina Allen > Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:23 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning > > > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Long ago we taught using ether in the fashion described here. Ether is > very flammable. It is also not good for you. > So even if it works well it is not a recommended method. > > Nina Allen > Professor Emerita > Department of Plant Biology > North Carolina State University > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 16, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Stanislav Vitha <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> ***** >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >> ***** >> >> Hi Aleksandrs, >> >> I like to use the method where you clean the lenses without touching > them. >> I learned this from Karl Aufderheide when he was showing this trick to > my LM >> course students. >> >> 1. Don't touch anything (even lens paper) to a lens surface except as > a last >> resort. Avoid especially commercial facial or bathroom tissue because > it could >> contain diatom frustules (glass!) as a filler. One pass of a kleenex > over a lens >> could possibly ruin it! >> 2. Hold a piece of lens paper or other tissue over a lens. Place a few > drops of >> ethyl ether on the paper and draw the paper across the lens surface so > that >> the ether flows rapidly in a circular pattern over the recessed lens > surface. In >> this way, the ether contacts the lens but the paper does not, because > the >> lens is recessed. >> 3. Inspect the lens using an inverted ocular as a magnifier. Repeat > the ether >> wash if necessary. >> 4. If ether does not remove the dirt, try first distilled water, then > chloroform, >> then xylene or benzene, in that order. If all else fails, try a 1:1:1 > mixture of >> water, alcohol and chloroform shaken just before use. Follow with an > ether >> wash. >> 5. For stubborn dirt (e.g., on old student microscopes) use the above > solvents >> on a clean Q-tip. >> >> >> Because of safety concerns with ether (formation of explosive > peroxides), I >> just get a fresh bottle every 6 months, and dispose of the old one > through our >> Hazardous Waste program. >> >> Stan Vitha >> Microscopy and Imaging Center >> Texas A&M University >> >> On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:03:31 -0400, Aleksandrs Spurmanis, Mr. >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Dear list, >>> >>> The current practice at our facility is to inspect and clean the > objectives of >> our scopes periodically (approx. once every 2-3 months for each scope) > using >> lens paper wrapped around small clean-room swabs. I had noticed, > however, >> that the field service technicians who run the PMs on our instruments > tend to >> use 100% cotton wool (which I understand to be essentially the same > material >> as your basic 100% cotton ball in the pharmacy) and are able to > service our >> lenses in a much more efficient manner (read: waayyy quicker) than > myself >> using my current methods. In the interests of improving my > maintenance >> efficiency, I've been considering trying this out myself but wanted to > check in >> with the list to see if anyone can share their experiences, insights > or advice >> before proceeding. My main concern is that the cotton might > contribute to >> premature wear on the lens coating. As cleaning solvents, I use > either Glass >> Plus, anhydrous ethanol and/or water. >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Aleksandrs J. Spurmanis >>> Microscopy Specialist >>> Imaging Facility >>> McGill University Life Sciences Complex >>> Francesco Bellini Building >>> 3649 Sir William Osler >>> Suite 137 >>> Montreal, QC >>> H3G 0B1 >>> tel.: (514)-398-5248 >>> fax: (514)-398-7452 >>> [hidden email] >>> http://www.mcgill.ca/lifesciencescomplex/core/imaging/ > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** For lens cleaning Zeiss recommend Zeiss cleaning mixture L, which there engineers now use since diethyl ether has been withdrawn from their kit [over fears of solvent abuse and fire probably]. Cleaning Mixture L is 90% by volume benzoline [petroleum ether sometimes called medical alcohol] and 10% isopropanol [2-proponal, dimethyl carbinol, 2-hydroxyproparne]. The bottle says Clean the optics by moving in circles, slight pressure should be exerted on optics during cleaning. Petroleum ether or spirit isnt the same as the diethyl ether solvent/anaesthetic often used to clean objectives, but apparently it also does the job for Zeiss optics. I think I am happy to take my chances with diethyl ether that has been successfully used on humans with no apparent ill effects [assuming the anesthetist was competent and not giving off sparks]. We use inverted optics here, and do a lot of live cell imaging. If the spillage is culture medium a small amount of super pure de-ionised water as a cleaner might be more suitable to dissolve salts, and I guess organic solvents could fix any cellular material onto the lens. I'd be careful of the water evaporating and leaving a residue - the purer the better, and I use ether straight afterwards [although water is not particularly soluble in ether]. Otherwise I just use diethyl ether as it dissolves immersion oil more effectively than alcohol and is considered more lens cement friendly than alcohol [probably as it evaporates off so fast]. For gentle cleaning [rather than just wiping off excess immersion oil with Whatman 105s], I also use Johnson and Johnson cotton buds as well that are '100% pure cotton' apparently. Oldie but goldie Zeiss Engineers used to use diethyl ether and a stick and bale of pure cotton wool and just twisted a bit off onto the stick as they used it. Immersion oil becomes more acidic during storage, which is harmful to objectives [so replace stocks if they are a few years old]. For this reason it would be a good idea to remove oil from objectives with ether prior to any long term storage. If the objective is left on the microscope the immersion oil doesn't need 'cleaning off' between users, just removal of any excess to prevent dripping [immersion oil doesn't dry out]. I guess you only need to thoroughly clean an objective if it's contaminated with something else [and unfortunately you have to remove all the immersion oil to see if the lens is 'clean' - I take off the objective and peer through it from the rear looking at say a light fitting, using a quality illuminated magnifying glass and reading glasses [I need the latter anyway]. There was a long thread on this subject back in March/April 2009 [search 'cleaning lens'] that has a lot of useful posts - so check those out. Back then using Ether for cleaning the top objective lenses seemed to get the most votes [benzene and toluene being rejected as really being too hazardous to health]. Some even recommended 'Sparkle glass cleaner' [must be a US product]. I do use 70% alcohol around the lens barrel for removing oil contamination [a common problem with our inverted objectives, gravity and low viscosity immersion oils working against us]. Regards Keith --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Keith J. Morris, Molecular Cytogenetics and Microscopy Core, Laboratory 00/069 and 00/070, The Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics, Roosevelt Drive, Oxford OX3 7BN, United Kingdom. Telephone: +44 (0)1865 287568 Email: [hidden email] Web-pages: http://www.well.ox.ac.uk/molecular-cytogenetics-and-microscopy -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Nina Allen Sent: 17 March 2011 03:26 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** You are right re ether. There was a study , now discredited, that nurse anesthetists had more miscarriages. My daughter, the anesthesiologist, tells me explosions is the danger. There is one reputable report that glycol ether used for cleaning in factories will cause miscarriage increase. Just don't breathe too much and faint. If pregnant don't use it to be on the safe side. Nina Allen Professor Emerita Department of Plant Biology North Carolina State University Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Guy Cox <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > In other words, pretty innocuous if inhaled. (Unless it puts you out > and you hit your head on the microscope!) > > > > Guy > > > > Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology > by Guy Cox CRC Press / Taylor & Francis > http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm > ______________________________________________ > Associate Professor Guy Cox, MA, DPhil(Oxon) > Electron Microscope Unit, Madsen Building F09, > University of Sydney, NSW 2006 > ______________________________________________ > Phone +61 2 9351 3176 Fax +61 2 9351 7682 > Mobile 0413 281 861 > ______________________________________________ > http://www.guycox.net > > > ________________________________ > > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Ray Gilbert > Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 1:38 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning > > > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > From the MSDS > > Extremely flammable liquid and vapour > > * Harmful if swallowed > > * Causes mild skin irritation > > * Causes serious eye irritation > > * Harmful to terrestrial vertebrates > > > Thanks > > Ray > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Guy Cox > Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 3:29 p.m. > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Are you certain about ether being toxic? I seem to remember reading > that ether was just about the safest anaesthetic there is, and the only > reason it isn't used more widely is its flammability. > > > > Guy > > > > Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology > by Guy Cox CRC Press / Taylor & Francis > http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm > ______________________________________________ > Associate Professor Guy Cox, MA, DPhil(Oxon) > Electron Microscope Unit, Madsen Building F09, > University of Sydney, NSW 2006 > ______________________________________________ > Phone +61 2 9351 3176 Fax +61 2 9351 7682 > Mobile 0413 281 861 > ______________________________________________ > http://www.guycox.net > > > ________________________________ > > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Nina Allen > Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:23 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning > > > > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > Long ago we taught using ether in the fashion described here. Ether is > very flammable. It is also not good for you. > So even if it works well it is not a recommended method. > > Nina Allen > Professor Emerita > Department of Plant Biology > North Carolina State University > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 16, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Stanislav Vitha <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> ***** >> To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: >> http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy >> ***** >> >> Hi Aleksandrs, >> >> I like to use the method where you clean the lenses without touching > them. >> I learned this from Karl Aufderheide when he was showing this trick to > my LM >> course students. >> >> 1. Don't touch anything (even lens paper) to a lens surface except as > a last >> resort. Avoid especially commercial facial or bathroom tissue because > it could >> contain diatom frustules (glass!) as a filler. One pass of a kleenex > over a lens >> could possibly ruin it! >> 2. Hold a piece of lens paper or other tissue over a lens. Place a few > drops of >> ethyl ether on the paper and draw the paper across the lens surface so > that >> the ether flows rapidly in a circular pattern over the recessed lens > surface. In >> this way, the ether contacts the lens but the paper does not, because > the >> lens is recessed. >> 3. Inspect the lens using an inverted ocular as a magnifier. Repeat > the ether >> wash if necessary. >> 4. If ether does not remove the dirt, try first distilled water, then > chloroform, >> then xylene or benzene, in that order. If all else fails, try a 1:1:1 > mixture of >> water, alcohol and chloroform shaken just before use. Follow with an > ether >> wash. >> 5. For stubborn dirt (e.g., on old student microscopes) use the above > solvents >> on a clean Q-tip. >> >> >> Because of safety concerns with ether (formation of explosive > peroxides), I >> just get a fresh bottle every 6 months, and dispose of the old one > through our >> Hazardous Waste program. >> >> Stan Vitha >> Microscopy and Imaging Center >> Texas A&M University >> >> On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:03:31 -0400, Aleksandrs Spurmanis, Mr. >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Dear list, >>> >>> The current practice at our facility is to inspect and clean the > objectives of >> our scopes periodically (approx. once every 2-3 months for each scope) > using >> lens paper wrapped around small clean-room swabs. I had noticed, > however, >> that the field service technicians who run the PMs on our instruments > tend to >> use 100% cotton wool (which I understand to be essentially the same > material >> as your basic 100% cotton ball in the pharmacy) and are able to > service our >> lenses in a much more efficient manner (read: waayyy quicker) than > myself >> using my current methods. In the interests of improving my > maintenance >> efficiency, I've been considering trying this out myself but wanted to > check in >> with the list to see if anyone can share their experiences, insights > or advice >> before proceeding. My main concern is that the cotton might > contribute to >> premature wear on the lens coating. As cleaning solvents, I use > either Glass >> Plus, anhydrous ethanol and/or water. >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Aleksandrs J. Spurmanis >>> Microscopy Specialist >>> Imaging Facility >>> McGill University Life Sciences Complex >>> Francesco Bellini Building >>> 3649 Sir William Osler >>> Suite 137 >>> Montreal, QC >>> H3G 0B1 >>> tel.: (514)-398-5248 >>> fax: (514)-398-7452 >>> [hidden email] >>> http://www.mcgill.ca/lifesciencescomplex/core/imaging/ > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** I don't think there really is one general solvent. When I began doing biological microscopy about 20 years ago the immersion oils all seemed to be made of the same stuff and easily cleaned with just about any organic solvent stronger than ethanol. This is no longer the case. For instance, the new Nikon oil for TIRF gets thick and is completely impervious to any of the aqueous cleaners. It is resistant to what we practically considered to be the universal solvent of organics, acetone, and also to ethanol. But dehydrated methanol works great. On the other hand, the Zeiss oils, when fresh, clean up fine with their aqueous cleaning solutions and when old and dripped all over the turret and such, with acetone. The old standby in the lab, Cargill Labs type DF, cleans up with any inorganic solvent. Of course, in one lab the gospel was xylene because, well, we scientists tend to be superstitious or traditional. As for ether, one benefit of using it, we were told years ago by someone at Zeiss, is that it evaporates so fast that it reduces the chances of dissolving the glue holding in the front glass of the objective. Is this really a problem? I've never had one of these front lenses come loose. Now I tend to use 1:1 acetone/methanol and cotton swabs and/or lens tissue following in the footsteps of Spectraphysics service who uses this to clean their mirrors and gives us average power of a Watt with 100 fs pulses at 910-920 nm, so I follow by example. -Michael Cammer ------------------------------------------------------------ This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ================================= |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** From direct experience, I urge a note of caution with acetone, you may degrade the lens mounting glue and risk spreading it over the lens. Regards Mark On 17/03/2011, at 12:40 PM, Cammer, Michael wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > ***** > > I don't think there really is one general solvent. When I began > doing biological microscopy about 20 years ago the immersion oils > all seemed to be made of the same stuff and easily cleaned with just > about any organic solvent stronger than ethanol. This is no longer > the case. For instance, the new Nikon oil for TIRF gets thick and > is completely impervious to any of the aqueous cleaners. It is > resistant to what we practically considered to be the universal > solvent of organics, acetone, and also to ethanol. But dehydrated > methanol works great. On the other hand, the Zeiss oils, when > fresh, clean up fine with their aqueous cleaning solutions and when > old and dripped all over the turret and such, with acetone. The old > standby in the lab, Cargill Labs type DF, cleans up with any > inorganic solvent. Of course, in one lab the gospel was xylene > because, well, we scientists tend to be superstitious or > traditional. As for ether, one benefit of using it, we were told > years ago by someone at Zeiss, is that it evaporates so fast that it > reduces the chances of dissolving the glue holding in the front > glass of the objective. Is this really a problem? I've never had > one of these front lenses come loose. Now I tend to use 1:1 acetone/ > methanol and cotton swabs and/or lens tissue following in the > footsteps of Spectraphysics service who uses this to clean their > mirrors and gives us average power of a Watt with 100 fs pulses at > 910-920 nm, so I follow by example. > -Michael Cammer > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use > of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is > proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under > applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or > distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error > please notify the sender by return email and delete the original > message. Please note, the recipient should check this email and any > attachments for the presence of viruses. The organization accepts no > liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this > email. > ================================= |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** Hi Michael, The cement holding the top lens is easily damaged - small fissures develop and the oil creeps behind the lens where it can't removed. You used to able to send the objectives away to Zeiss for 'repair', but now that seems to cost more than the objective. Our Zeiss 510 confocal 40x plan neofluar apparently has some oil ingress but the image focuses adequately through it [can't tell any difference really at that lower mag] - many probably carry on not knowing it's happened [we mainly use the 63x Plan Apochromat for high detail work anyway]. We lost one 20x air objective to cross contamination oil ingress, and image quality was affected very badly in that case - I expect the objective was previously damaged by impact. One microscopy core manager did comment to me that he considers oil objectives a disposable item as they can be damaged in a very busy multi-user facility. This problem is probably more acute in cores like us where live cell is used and all microscopes are in inverted configuration - with an upright the oil drops off rather than in - although surface tension will draw the oil past the cement if the cement does develop fissures. Inverted microscopes also suffer far more from users crashing the objective into the stage etc.. [as you can't see them too easily]. Regards Keith --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Keith J. Morris, Molecular Cytogenetics and Microscopy Core, Laboratory 00/069 and 00/070, The Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics, Roosevelt Drive, Oxford OX3 7BN, United Kingdom. Telephone: +44 (0)1865 287568 Email: [hidden email] Web-pages: http://www.well.ox.ac.uk/molecular-cytogenetics-and-microscopy -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Cammer, Michael Sent: 17 March 2011 12:41 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Cotton wool for lens cleaning ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy ***** I don't think there really is one general solvent. When I began doing biological microscopy about 20 years ago the immersion oils all seemed to be made of the same stuff and easily cleaned with just about any organic solvent stronger than ethanol. This is no longer the case. For instance, the new Nikon oil for TIRF gets thick and is completely impervious to any of the aqueous cleaners. It is resistant to what we practically considered to be the universal solvent of organics, acetone, and also to ethanol. But dehydrated methanol works great. On the other hand, the Zeiss oils, when fresh, clean up fine with their aqueous cleaning solutions and when old and dripped all over the turret and such, with acetone. The old standby in the lab, Cargill Labs type DF, cleans up with any inorganic solvent. Of course, in one lab the gospel was xylene because, well, we scientists tend to be superstitious or traditional. As for ether, one benefit of using it, we were told years ago by someone at Zeiss, is that it evaporates so fast that it reduces the chances of dissolving the glue holding in the front glass of the objective. Is this really a problem? I've never had one of these front lenses come loose. Now I tend to use 1:1 acetone/methanol and cotton swabs and/or lens tissue following in the footsteps of Spectraphysics service who uses this to clean their mirrors and gives us average power of a Watt with 100 fs pulses at 910-920 nm, so I follow by example. -Michael Cammer ------------------------------------------------------------ This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ================================= |
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