F Javier Diez Guerra |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi, For teaching purposes, we would like to perform FRAP experiments in an inverted widefield fluorescence microscope. Circular ROIs achieved by closing the epi-illumination field diafragm take too long to bleach and do not deliver sharp contrast between bleached and non-bleached areas. We have a Leica DMi8 stage under Metamorph Basic and a basic LED light source. Sadly, we do not have the resources to purchase Leica's "FRAP Device for Widefield Microscopy". I wonder if any lister has successfully managed to build a one-laser "bleaching" module that could be easily assembled and attached to the microscope to accomplish ROI bleaching and FRAP experiments, in the cheap side. Thanks in advance for the input. -- Fco. Javier Díez Guerra, PhD Profesor Titular Departamento de Biología Molecular Facultad de Ciencias Centro de Biología Molecular Severo Ochoa C/ Nicolás Cabrera, 1 Universidad Autónoma Ctra Colmenar Viejo Km 15 Cantoblanco, 28049 Madrid SPAIN phone: +34 91 196 4612 e-mail: [hidden email] |
Julio Vazquez-2 |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** If your microscope allows, you could try to set the epi-illumination to critical rather than Koehler. This would boost the illumination intensity at the sample several fold. More information at the link below: http://www.asiimaging.com/downloads/manuals/Epi-Illumination%20on%20the%20RAMM.pdf Also, you might be able to find a light source with more power than your standard LED. Julio. -- Julio Vazquez Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center Seattle, WA 98109 fredhutch.org On Apr 6, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Fco. Javier Díez Guerra wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.umn.edu_cgi-2Dbin_wa-3FA0-3Dconfocalmicroscopy&d=DwIDaQ&c=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ&r=ttNYkfRwLB_uJJmzFu8cIdRdnibIA0UXGXDLv4MFuvU&m=FZuV1SXQ4x9smaoOoJOA8uP9Py1f783IagPPB0nllTI&s=nxut6eC4NKCdW8m_G53tujKgQqCCNEF9EHAVvWpZm7Y&e= Post images on https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.imgur.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ&r=ttNYkfRwLB_uJJmzFu8cIdRdnibIA0UXGXDLv4MFuvU&m=FZuV1SXQ4x9smaoOoJOA8uP9Py1f783IagPPB0nllTI&s=-nBY_g519qHI8XIyBk7MYfnTV49DsnDkb7sFxctRrwg&e= and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Hi, > > For teaching purposes, we would like to perform FRAP experiments in an inverted widefield fluorescence microscope. Circular ROIs achieved by closing the epi-illumination field diafragm take too long to bleach and do not deliver sharp contrast between bleached and non-bleached areas. We have a Leica DMi8 stage under Metamorph Basic and a basic LED light source. Sadly, we do not have the resources to purchase Leica's "FRAP Device for Widefield Microscopy". > > I wonder if any lister has successfully managed to build a one-laser "bleaching" module that could be easily assembled and attached to the microscope to accomplish ROI bleaching and FRAP experiments, in the cheap side. > > Thanks in advance for the input. > > > -- > > Fco. Javier Díez Guerra, PhD > Profesor Titular > Departamento de Biología Molecular > Facultad de Ciencias > Centro de Biología Molecular Severo Ochoa > C/ Nicolás Cabrera, 1 > Universidad Autónoma > Ctra Colmenar Viejo Km 15 > Cantoblanco, 28049 Madrid > SPAIN > > phone: +34 91 196 4612 > e-mail: [hidden email] |
Zdenek Svindrych-2 |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi Javier, Haven't managed : -). Cheap 445 nm diode lasers are strong enough to bleach anything, but galvo scanning will be difficult to integrate (mainly from the software point of view). The cheapest solution would be 445 nm laser combined with the field aperture trick (just expand the beam to fill the field diaphragm and couple it to the illumination path together with your current fluorescence illumination; beware of laser safety, you may even damage the objective lens as the beam will be focused inside the lens!). The bleaching will be quicker (depends on fluorophore) and sharper. If you want something fancier, a DMD from an old projector could serve you to define the bleaching mask. Expand the beam and put the DMD to a position conjugate with sample focus (i.e. conjugate with the field diaphragm). You can drive the projector from auxiliary graphics card. There might be some issues with angle of the DMD and the beams due to interference and the setup will be bulky due to the way the driver electronics is connected to the DMD in typical projectors. Again, beware of the lasers! The diodes are not single mode, but they still can blind you in an instant (at 2 Watts of power)... Good Luck! zdenek -- Zdenek Svindrych, Ph.D. W.M. Keck Center for Cellular Imaging (PLSB 003) Department of Biology,University of Virginia 409 McCormick Rd, Charlottesville, VA-22904 http://www.kcci.virginia.edu/ tel: 434-982-4869 ---------- Původní e-mail ---------- Od: Fco. Javier Díez Guerra <[hidden email]> Komu: [hidden email] Datum: 6. 4. 2017 12:44:09 Předmět: DIY FRAP module for widefield "***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi, For teaching purposes, we would like to perform FRAP experiments in an inverted widefield fluorescence microscope. Circular ROIs achieved by closing the epi-illumination field diafragm take too long to bleach and do not deliver sharp contrast between bleached and non-bleached areas. We have a Leica DMi8 stage under Metamorph Basic and a basic LED light source. Sadly, we do not have the resources to purchase Leica's "FRAP Device for Widefield Microscopy". I wonder if any lister has successfully managed to build a one-laser "bleaching" module that could be easily assembled and attached to the microscope to accomplish ROI bleaching and FRAP experiments, in the cheap side. Thanks in advance for the input. -- Fco. Javier Díez Guerra, PhD Profesor Titular Departamento de Biología Molecular Facultad de Ciencias Centro de Biología Molecular Severo Ochoa C/ Nicolás Cabrera, 1 Universidad Autónoma Ctra Colmenar Viejo Km 15 Cantoblanco, 28049 Madrid SPAIN phone: +34 91 196 4612 e-mail: [hidden email] " |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Excellent suggestion regarding the critical illumination. Olympus used to sell a T connection part for this for the IX70 so that a lamp aligned for critical illumination with a mask at the field stop position could be used for photoactivation or bleaching while a lamp for Koehler could be used for imaging. We put shutters on both lamps. So you could build one, or do it with one lamp changing the lamp focus from one position to the other. =*===========================================================*= Michael Cammer, DART Microscopy Laboratory, NYU Langone Medical Center Cell: 914-309-3270 (this is for calling, not texting) Office: Skirball 2nd Floor main office, back right http://ocs.med.nyu.edu/microscopy & http://microscopynotes.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Julio Vazquez Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 1:08 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: DIY FRAP module for widefield If your microscope allows, you could try to set the epi-illumination to critical rather than Koehler. This would boost the illumination intensity at the sample several fold. More information at the link below: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.asiimaging.com_downloads_manuals_Epi-2DIllumination-2520on-2520the-2520RAMM.pdf&d=DQIFAw&c=j5oPpO0eBH1iio48DtsedbOBGmuw5jHLjgvtN2r4ehE&r=oU_05LztNstAydlbm5L5GDu_vAdjXk3frDLx_CqKkuo&m=CzWuOZlws16uaSiHCp4uGs1kqG3p1O76dwEcNEVNvqA&s=yHACnqskCpI2cBqurgzhPpcCACgxggqsfg5zN3FbQSM&e= Also, you might be able to find a light source with more power than your standard LED. Julio. -- Julio Vazquez Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center Seattle, WA 98109 fredhutch.org On Apr 6, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Fco. Javier Díez Guerra wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.umn.edu_cgi-2Dbin_wa-3FA0-3Dconfocalmicroscopy&d=DwIDaQ&c=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ&r=ttNYkfRwLB_uJJmzFu8cIdRdnibIA0UXGXDLv4MFuvU&m=FZuV1SXQ4x9smaoOoJOA8uP9Py1f783IagPPB0nllTI&s=nxut6eC4NKCdW8m_G53tujKgQqCCNEF9EHAVvWpZm7Y&e= Post images on https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.imgur.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=eRAMFD45gAfqt84VtBcfhQ&r=ttNYkfRwLB_uJJmzFu8cIdRdnibIA0UXGXDLv4MFuvU&m=FZuV1SXQ4x9smaoOoJOA8uP9Py1f783IagPPB0nllTI&s=-nBY_g519qHI8XIyBk7MYfnTV49DsnDkb7sFxctRrwg&e= and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Hi, > > For teaching purposes, we would like to perform FRAP experiments in an inverted widefield fluorescence microscope. Circular ROIs achieved by closing the epi-illumination field diafragm take too long to bleach and do not deliver sharp contrast between bleached and non-bleached areas. We have a Leica DMi8 stage under Metamorph Basic and a basic LED light source. Sadly, we do not have the resources to purchase Leica's "FRAP Device for Widefield Microscopy". > > I wonder if any lister has successfully managed to build a one-laser "bleaching" module that could be easily assembled and attached to the microscope to accomplish ROI bleaching and FRAP experiments, in the cheap side. > > Thanks in advance for the input. > > > -- > > Fco. Javier Díez Guerra, PhD > Profesor Titular > Departamento de Biología Molecular > Facultad de Ciencias > Centro de Biología Molecular Severo Ochoa C/ Nicolás Cabrera, 1 > Universidad Autónoma Ctra Colmenar Viejo Km 15 Cantoblanco, 28049 > Madrid SPAIN > > phone: +34 91 196 4612 > e-mail: [hidden email] ------------------------------------------------------------ This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ================================= |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi Javier, To increase the sharpness of the widefield-bleached region, a masking filter can be used. There are articles using polycarbonate filters and UV excitation to induce local UV damage in nuclei of monolayer cultures. (Volker at al 2001, Mol Cell) http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1097276501002817 *"...To assess whether UV irradiation provokes intranuclear translocation of repair proteins to the sites of DNA photolesions, we exposed small parts of the nucleus to UV radiation (“local” irradiation) using a methodology described in detail by Moné et al. (submitted). For this purpose, monolayer cultures of human fibroblasts were covered with isopore polycarbonate filters with pore diameters of either 3 or 8 μm prior to UV irradiation. These filters block UV light with wavelengths shorter than 300 nm, and, consequently, only at sites of pores will UV damage be induced..."* They use low cost, commercially available filters/membranes with very small holes to allow UV light to selectively enter and damage certain subnuclear regions. A similar filter with bigger holes (or with a manually drilled microhole in the middle) can be placed onto your sample (or below your sample, for inverted microscope) to allow only a very discrete region below the hole(s) to be excited (hence bleached), then you remove the filter to observe the recovery. Since the masking filter/membrane will be positioned very close to your sample (attached to bottom of a coverslip-bottom Petri dish for the inverted microscope, for example), I expect sharper contrast between bleached and nonbleached regions. If you use a sample which can be quickly bleached by UV light, you can try putting your sample (with masking filter at the bottom) on top of a strong UV lamp or microscope-disconnected Mercury/Xenon lamphouse (for direct, high power, excitation levels -while being very careful!) to selectively and quickly bleach multiple regions (and possibly retinas of your "pupils"), then follow recovery of the bleached spots on the microscope. Cheap widefield FRAP? ☑ Ferhan -- Ferhan Ayaydin, Ph.D. Cellular Imaging Laboratory Biological Research Centre Hungarian Academy of Sciences Temesvari krt 62. H6726 Szeged, Hungary *Applicants wanted for a year long international training course in our microscopy/imaging lab on CRISPR/Cas9 editing of fluorescent proteins in plants * *(7th item at the following website)*: http://www.brc.hu/international_training_applications.php Lab website: http://www.brc.hu/core_cellular_imaging.php |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Thanks to all that have posted on this issue. We will try to set up critical illumination to concentrate more light within the ROI to bleach. Unfortunately our LED source couples directly to the epi-illumination port of the microscope (no fiber or light guide). Best regards Javier |
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