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Dear Confocal Microscopy List,

I have hit another wall with a very old deconvolution microscope (late
90's).

I have images from fixed slides that have DAPI and a green dye.  I grow the
cells on round coverslips that are pre-coated with Poly-D-Lysine or
Poly-L-Lysine from the supplier (BD).

1) I'm having issues with green autofluorescence. As a result, my
deconvolved images don't look very good. They are very grainy and almost
look homogeneous. I'm confident it's the coverslip that's causing it but I
can't buy them without the poly-lysine and I can't grow the cells without
poly-lysine either. I tried a round Fisher coverslip with no coating, but
that had autofluorescence too. I have been using extra long rectangular
coverslips for mounting because those don't have autofluorescence. Any
suggestions would be incredibly appreciated.

2) When I deconvolve a slide I made, it cuts off the right side of the
image and places it on the left. There's usually a big line where it made
the cut. Why would this occur? When I use a prepared fixed slide from
Invitrogen (Fluocell #2), it cuts off the left side and puts it on the
right! This only happens when I deconvolve wavelengths separately. I do not
touch the "pass wave" function (what does that do?).

3) What glass slides do you use? Cat #'s would be greatly appreciated as
the ones Invitrogen recommended aren't available anymore and Fisher does
not know (and their slides autofluoresce).

Thank you so much for any help!

Heather

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Heather,

to get some help from the list members it would be helpful if you'd let
us know in which corner of the world you are located. Your G-mail
account doesn't give a clue and you don't have a signature. I get my
non-fluorescent coverslips from http://www.hecht-assistent.de/ (Order
no.:1014) but I am not sure if you would consider ordering in Germany.

Also, you might want to let people know which decon software you are using.

Steffen

On 16.07.2013 06:23, Heather Bowden wrote:

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> Dear Confocal Microscopy List,
>
> I have hit another wall with a very old deconvolution microscope (late
> 90's).
>
> I have images from fixed slides that have DAPI and a green dye.  I grow the
> cells on round coverslips that are pre-coated with Poly-D-Lysine or
> Poly-L-Lysine from the supplier (BD).
>
> 1) I'm having issues with green autofluorescence. As a result, my
> deconvolved images don't look very good. They are very grainy and almost
> look homogeneous. I'm confident it's the coverslip that's causing it but I
> can't buy them without the poly-lysine and I can't grow the cells without
> poly-lysine either. I tried a round Fisher coverslip with no coating, but
> that had autofluorescence too. I have been using extra long rectangular
> coverslips for mounting because those don't have autofluorescence. Any
> suggestions would be incredibly appreciated.
>
> 2) When I deconvolve a slide I made, it cuts off the right side of the
> image and places it on the left. There's usually a big line where it made
> the cut. Why would this occur? When I use a prepared fixed slide from
> Invitrogen (Fluocell #2), it cuts off the left side and puts it on the
> right! This only happens when I deconvolve wavelengths separately. I do not
> touch the "pass wave" function (what does that do?).
>
> 3) What glass slides do you use? Cat #'s would be greatly appreciated as
> the ones Invitrogen recommended aren't available anymore and Fisher does
> not know (and their slides autofluoresce).
>
> Thank you so much for any help!
>
> Heather
>


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Hi Heather,

in our hands poly-lysine seemed to increase autofluorescence by binding riboflavin. So when using culture media with high riboflavin levels the autofluorescence levels were much higher than when using low riboflavin solutions. Importantly this binding seems to be quite stable: the difference persisted even after multiple wash steps with riboflavin free imaging solutions.

Depending on the culture medium you are using, you might want to switch to a low riboflavin medium at least a day or two prior to imaging.

Hope to help,

Chris

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> Dear Confocal Microscopy List,
>
> I have hit another wall with a very old deconvolution microscope (late
> 90's).
>
> I have images from fixed slides that have DAPI and a green dye.  I grow the
> cells on round coverslips that are pre-coated with Poly-D-Lysine or
> Poly-L-Lysine from the supplier (BD).
>
> 1) I'm having issues with green autofluorescence. As a result, my
> deconvolved images don't look very good. They are very grainy and almost
> look homogeneous. I'm confident it's the coverslip that's causing it but I
> can't buy them without the poly-lysine and I can't grow the cells without
> poly-lysine either. I tried a round Fisher coverslip with no coating, but
> that had autofluorescence too. I have been using extra long rectangular
> coverslips for mounting because those don't have autofluorescence. Any
> suggestions would be incredibly appreciated.
>
> 2) When I deconvolve a slide I made, it cuts off the right side of the
> image and places it on the left. There's usually a big line where it made
> the cut. Why would this occur? When I use a prepared fixed slide from
> Invitrogen (Fluocell #2), it cuts off the left side and puts it on the
> right! This only happens when I deconvolve wavelengths separately. I do not
> touch the "pass wave" function (what does that do?).
>
> 3) What glass slides do you use? Cat #'s would be greatly appreciated as
> the ones Invitrogen recommended aren't available anymore and Fisher does
> not know (and their slides autofluoresce).
>
> Thank you so much for any help!
>
> Heather
>
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Steffen I am located in California.

As for the software, it's SoftWorx. But I have been playing around with
ImageJ to troubleshoot because it's faster. The cutting off problem only
occurs when I deconvolve with apply correction in SoftWorx. I don't see it
cut off at any other point.

Chris: Wow what an interesting suggestion! I will check it out.

Tom: Thanks! I'll check those out immediately. You're right that the signal
isn't very good but I was hoping that it wouldn't make such an enormous
difference.

Thank you,

Heather


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> *****
>
> Heather,
>
> to get some help from the list members it would be helpful if you'd let us
> know in which corner of the world you are located. Your G-mail account
> doesn't give a clue and you don't have a signature. I get my
> non-fluorescent coverslips from http://www.hecht-assistent.de/ (Order
> no.:1014) but I am not sure if you would consider ordering in Germany.
>
> Also, you might want to let people know which decon software you are using.
>
> Steffen
>
> On 16.07.2013 06:23, Heather Bowden wrote:
>
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>> *****
>>
>>
>> Dear Confocal Microscopy List,
>>
>> I have hit another wall with a very old deconvolution microscope (late
>> 90's).
>>
>> I have images from fixed slides that have DAPI and a green dye.  I grow
>> the
>> cells on round coverslips that are pre-coated with Poly-D-Lysine or
>> Poly-L-Lysine from the supplier (BD).
>>
>> 1) I'm having issues with green autofluorescence. As a result, my
>> deconvolved images don't look very good. They are very grainy and almost
>> look homogeneous. I'm confident it's the coverslip that's causing it but I
>> can't buy them without the poly-lysine and I can't grow the cells without
>> poly-lysine either. I tried a round Fisher coverslip with no coating, but
>> that had autofluorescence too. I have been using extra long rectangular
>> coverslips for mounting because those don't have autofluorescence. Any
>> suggestions would be incredibly appreciated.
>>
>> 2) When I deconvolve a slide I made, it cuts off the right side of the
>> image and places it on the left. There's usually a big line where it made
>> the cut. Why would this occur? When I use a prepared fixed slide from
>> Invitrogen (Fluocell #2), it cuts off the left side and puts it on the
>> right! This only happens when I deconvolve wavelengths separately. I do
>> not
>> touch the "pass wave" function (what does that do?).
>>
>> 3) What glass slides do you use? Cat #'s would be greatly appreciated as
>> the ones Invitrogen recommended aren't available anymore and Fisher does
>> not know (and their slides autofluoresce).
>>
>> Thank you so much for any help!
>>
>> Heather
>>
>>
>
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> Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München
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> Head of light microscopy
>
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> Marchioninistr. 15, D-81377 München
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Dear heather ,
I hear people are solving similar problem using a certain LCTF  camera called Nuance .The main principle of that camera is based on the spectrum image capturing and unmixing .Since the autofluorescence is mainly caused by the cover slip or the poly-lysine in your case . I believe that is the right solution for you .And deconvolution  on the other hand is aiming to deconvolve the defocused signal ,so it will greatly increase the s/n ratio,but may not work  well on the autofluorescence  extraction .


Charlie

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Dear Confocal Microscopy List,

I have hit another wall with a very old deconvolution microscope (late 90's).

I have images from fixed slides that have DAPI and a green dye.  I grow the cells on round coverslips that are pre-coated with Poly-D-Lysine or Poly-L-Lysine from the supplier (BD).

1) I'm having issues with green autofluorescence. As a result, my deconvolved images don't look very good. They are very grainy and almost look homogeneous. I'm confident it's the coverslip that's causing it but I can't buy them without the poly-lysine and I can't grow the cells without poly-lysine either. I tried a round Fisher coverslip with no coating, but that had autofluorescence too. I have been using extra long rectangular coverslips for mounting because those don't have autofluorescence. Any suggestions would be incredibly appreciated.

2) When I deconvolve a slide I made, it cuts off the right side of the image and places it on the left. There's usually a big line where it made the cut. Why would this occur? When I use a prepared fixed slide from Invitrogen (Fluocell #2), it cuts off the left side and puts it on the right! This only happens when I deconvolve wavelengths separately. I do not touch the "pass wave" function (what does that do?).

3) What glass slides do you use? Cat #'s would be greatly appreciated as the ones Invitrogen recommended aren't available anymore and Fisher does not know (and their slides autofluoresce).

Thank you so much for any help!

Heather

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Dear Chris,

Does riboflavin increase autofluorescence of untreated cells or increase
background?

Thank you,

Heather


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:23 AM, Christian Wilms <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> Hi Heather,
>
> in our hands poly-lysine seemed to increase autofluorescence by binding
> riboflavin. So when using culture media with high riboflavin levels the
> autofluorescence levels were much higher than when using low riboflavin
> solutions. Importantly this binding seems to be quite stable: the
> difference persisted even after multiple wash steps with riboflavin free
> imaging solutions.
>
> Depending on the culture medium you are using, you might want to switch to
> a low riboflavin medium at least a day or two prior to imaging.
>
> Hope to help,
>
> Chris
>
> > *****
> > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> > *****
> >
> > Dear Confocal Microscopy List,
> >
> > I have hit another wall with a very old deconvolution microscope (late
> > 90's).
> >
> > I have images from fixed slides that have DAPI and a green dye.  I grow
> the
> > cells on round coverslips that are pre-coated with Poly-D-Lysine or
> > Poly-L-Lysine from the supplier (BD).
> >
> > 1) I'm having issues with green autofluorescence. As a result, my
> > deconvolved images don't look very good. They are very grainy and almost
> > look homogeneous. I'm confident it's the coverslip that's causing it but
> I
> > can't buy them without the poly-lysine and I can't grow the cells without
> > poly-lysine either. I tried a round Fisher coverslip with no coating, but
> > that had autofluorescence too. I have been using extra long rectangular
> > coverslips for mounting because those don't have autofluorescence. Any
> > suggestions would be incredibly appreciated.
> >
> > 2) When I deconvolve a slide I made, it cuts off the right side of the
> > image and places it on the left. There's usually a big line where it made
> > the cut. Why would this occur? When I use a prepared fixed slide from
> > Invitrogen (Fluocell #2), it cuts off the left side and puts it on the
> > right! This only happens when I deconvolve wavelengths separately. I do
> not
> > touch the "pass wave" function (what does that do?).
> >
> > 3) What glass slides do you use? Cat #'s would be greatly appreciated as
> > the ones Invitrogen recommended aren't available anymore and Fisher does
> > not know (and their slides autofluoresce).
> >
> > Thank you so much for any help!
> >
> > Heather
> >
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> >
>



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