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Double TSA?

So I have recently been working on a double staining IHC using TSA to  
amplify the signal in one antibody. It's been working great except  
that as s result of all the washing steps from the TSA protocol the  
other non TSA antibody stain is too weak now. I have tried to decrease  
the washing steps which hadn't helped that much. Any suggestions on  
how I can apply TSA/ amplification to two antibodies? I have
Looked around online and haven't found anything concrete. Any  
suggestions folks have is muchly appreciated. This is using parafin  
embedded adipose tissue. Thanks!
Richard Green
Goodhouse, Joseph G. Goodhouse, Joseph G.
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Re: Double TSA?

        It could be an affinity problem with the first anti-body.  One
trick to solve this is to re-fix the sample after you  have done your
first primary anti-body incubation and washes to cross link it to its
antigen.

Joe Goodhouse
Confocal Core Lab Manager
Dept. of Molecular Biology
Princeton University
Washington Road
Princeton, NJ. 08544-1014
609-258-5432
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Subject: Double TSA?

So I have recently been working on a double staining IHC using TSA to  
amplify the signal in one antibody. It's been working great except  
that as s result of all the washing steps from the TSA protocol the  
other non TSA antibody stain is too weak now. I have tried to decrease  
the washing steps which hadn't helped that much. Any suggestions on  
how I can apply TSA/ amplification to two antibodies? I have
Looked around online and haven't found anything concrete. Any  
suggestions folks have is muchly appreciated. This is using parafin  
embedded adipose tissue. Thanks!
Richard Green
Cameron Nowell Cameron Nowell
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Re: Double TSA?

Hi Richard,

There are two variations of TSA, HRP and AP. I would think if you use
HRP for one antibody and AP for the other you should be able to double
label.

Cheers


Cam



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        It could be an affinity problem with the first anti-body.  One
trick to solve this is to re-fix the sample after you  have done your
first primary anti-body incubation and washes to cross link it to its
antigen.

Joe Goodhouse
Confocal Core Lab Manager
Dept. of Molecular Biology
Princeton University
Washington Road
Princeton, NJ. 08544-1014
609-258-5432
Visit us at http://www.molbio1.princeton.edu/facility/confocal/


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Richard Green
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:28 PM
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Subject: Double TSA?

So I have recently been working on a double staining IHC using TSA to  
amplify the signal in one antibody. It's been working great except  
that as s result of all the washing steps from the TSA protocol the  
other non TSA antibody stain is too weak now. I have tried to decrease  
the washing steps which hadn't helped that much. Any suggestions on  
how I can apply TSA/ amplification to two antibodies? I have
Looked around online and haven't found anything concrete. Any  
suggestions folks have is muchly appreciated. This is using parafin  
embedded adipose tissue. Thanks!
Richard Green

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Asson-Batres, Mary Ann Asson-Batres, Mary Ann
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We published a method for double labeling with TSA and continue to use it with success for cultured cells and different tissues fixed with paraformaldehyde and embedded in paraffin or OCT-frozen sections.  You can find it in this reference:

J Comp Neurol. 2006 May 10;496(2):149-71.  Localization of retinaldehyde dehydrogenases and retinoid binding proteins to sustentacular cells, glia, Bowman's gland cells, and stroma: potential sites of retinoic acid synthesis in the postnatal rat olfactory organ.

at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16538685?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=2


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-----Original Message-----
From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Richard Green
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Subject: Double TSA?

So I have recently been working on a double staining IHC using TSA to amplify the signal in one antibody. It's been working great except that as s result of all the washing steps from the TSA protocol the other non TSA antibody stain is too weak now. I have tried to decrease the washing steps which hadn't helped that much. Any suggestions on how I can apply TSA/ amplification to two antibodies? I have Looked around online and haven't found anything concrete. Any suggestions folks have is muchly appreciated. This is using parafin embedded adipose tissue. Thanks!
Richard Green
Tamara Howard Tamara Howard
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I haven't tried this protocol but have a reference from
Toth & Mezey in 2007; they were trying to do
double-labeling with primaries from
the same species & ended up detecting with TSA: J.
Histochem. & Cytochem. (55) 6: 545-554

Tamara



On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:28:14 -0800
  Richard Green <[hidden email]> wrote:

> So I have recently been working on a double staining IHC
>using TSA to  amplify the signal in one antibody. It's
>been working great except  that as s result of all the
>washing steps from the TSA protocol the  other non TSA
>antibody stain is too weak now. I have tried to decrease
> the washing steps which hadn't helped that much. Any
>suggestions on  how I can apply TSA/ amplification to two
>antibodies? I have
> Looked around online and haven't found anything
>concrete. Any  suggestions folks have is muchly
>appreciated. This is using parafin  embedded adipose
>tissue. Thanks!
> Richard Green

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Tamara Howard
Cell Biology & Physiology
UNM-HSC
Albuquerque, NM
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Francisco J H Blazquez Francisco J H Blazquez
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Hello..I had the same problem some years ago, so we did a double amplification using first a biotinilated-FITC marker amplified by an anti-FITC-ALEXA 433 antibody, then we did the TSA with TRITC as fluorochrome.

If you wish the method is described here and you may see the photos of the double staining

<a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1006/excr.2001.5342" target="doilink" onclick="var doiWin; doiWin=window.open('http://dx.doi.org/10.1006/excr.2001.5342','doilink','scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,directories=yes,toolbar=yes,menubar=yes,status=yes'); doiWin.focus()">doi:10.1006/excr.2001.5342 
Experimental Cell Research
Volume 270, Issue 2, 1 November 2001, Pages 235-247

Good luck

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Tamara A Howard escreveu:
I haven't tried this protocol but have a reference from Toth & Mezey in 2007; they were trying to do double-labeling with primaries from
the same species & ended up detecting with TSA: J. Histochem. & Cytochem. (55) 6: 545-554

Tamara



On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:28:14 -0800
 Richard Green [hidden email] wrote:
So I have recently been working on a double staining IHC using TSA to  amplify the signal in one antibody. It's been working great except  that as s result of all the washing steps from the TSA protocol the  other non TSA antibody stain is too weak now. I have tried to decrease the washing steps which hadn't helped that much. Any suggestions on  how I can apply TSA/ amplification to two antibodies? I have
Looked around online and haven't found anything concrete. Any  suggestions folks have is muchly appreciated. This is using parafin  embedded adipose tissue. Thanks!
Richard Green

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Tamara Howard
Cell Biology & Physiology
UNM-HSC
Albuquerque, NM
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