EOPC resonant scanners in phase-lock mode

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Dear list,

Has anyone used EOPC's PLD-2SXY driver (http://www.eopc.com/driver_pld2sxy.html) to run two resonant scanners in phase-locked mode?
I'm using their 8kHz SC-30 scanners, and they run in synch for maybe a minute or so, but then start to drift slowly out of phase. Has anyone else seen this behavior?

Thanks,
Bruno


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Dear Bruno,

I cannot really help, just share that me made similar experiences. We experienced a phase drift even with a single resonant scanner from EOPC locked to a master frequency used for other components. Unfortunately, we didn’t find out how to get rid of this drift and EOPC could not help. We only got rid of the drift with an in-house built driver then.

I would be interested to hear if you can resolve it.

Good luck!
Nino


> Am 20.02.2021 um 10:20 schrieb Bruno Pichler <[hidden email]>:
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> Dear list,
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> Has anyone used EOPC's PLD-2SXY driver (http://www.eopc.com/driver_pld2sxy.html) to run two resonant scanners in phase-locked mode?
> I'm using their 8kHz SC-30 scanners, and they run in synch for maybe a minute or so, but then start to drift slowly out of phase. Has anyone else seen this behavior?
>
> Thanks,
> Bruno
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Hi Bruno,

I recently took over a project that uses an EOPC scanner. The previous person noticed that its phase drifts even for a single scanner. A solution that seemed to have worked for him was to keep the scanner running with the laser on for a few minutes before taking data. I haven't look into this issue deep enough but I guess it could be either caused by mechanical or laser heating.

best,
David


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Thanks all for this conversation.

This in interesting - are the phase drifts relative to the reference signal, or are you safe to ignore them once you keep proper track of the reference out from the driver?

All the best,

Brian


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Hi Bruno,

I recently took over a project that uses an EOPC scanner. The previous person noticed that its phase drifts even for a single scanner. A solution that seemed to have worked for him was to keep the scanner running with the laser on for a few minutes before taking data. I haven't look into this issue deep enough but I guess it could be either caused by mechanical or laser heating.

best,
David


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Hi all,
Thanks for the responses so far.
I'll have a phone call with EOPC later today and I'll report back then.
Best,
Bruno

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Thanks all for this conversation.

This in interesting - are the phase drifts relative to the reference signal,
or are you safe to ignore them once you keep proper track of the reference
out from the driver?

All the best,

Brian


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Hi Bruno,

I recently took over a project that uses an EOPC scanner. The previous
person noticed that its phase drifts even for a single scanner. A solution
that seemed to have worked for him was to keep the scanner running with the
laser on for a few minutes before taking data. I haven't look into this
issue deep enough but I guess it could be either caused by mechanical or
laser heating.

best,
David


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So, I spoke to Israel Tuchman at EOPC and it turns out that there is a gain
setting somewhere in the synchronisation circuit that could possibly be
tweaked to improve the phase drift. However, he was not confident that it
would stabilise it enough for our application.
Instead, we discussed the option of adding a DC command voltage input to the
driver such that we can control the phase offset from software. This will
hopefully allow us to apply some close-loop correction based on the image
offset.  
It will take some time to send the driver back to EOPC and get this
implemented, but I will let you know if and when I get it to work.  

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Hi all,
Thanks for the responses so far.
I'll have a phone call with EOPC later today and I'll report back then.
Best,
Bruno

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Thanks all for this conversation.

This in interesting - are the phase drifts relative to the reference signal,
or are you safe to ignore them once you keep proper track of the reference
out from the driver?

All the best,

Brian


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Hi Bruno,

I recently took over a project that uses an EOPC scanner. The previous
person noticed that its phase drifts even for a single scanner. A solution
that seemed to have worked for him was to keep the scanner running with the
laser on for a few minutes before taking data. I haven't look into this
issue deep enough but I guess it could be either caused by mechanical or
laser heating.

best,
David


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