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IRDye 800 Update

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Thanks for all your helpful suggestions. I thought the following might be
interesting:

I used my laser power meter to check the power density for different lenses
and light sources that we have.

At 740 nm (Chroma SP-106 excitation filter is 740±35)

No lens - 43 mW with Hg and 58 mW with Halogen (3200K)
20x/0.45 Achroplan Ph2  - 79%T
40x/1.2 W C Apochromat - 81%T
63x/1.4 oil PlanApo - 67%T

At 774 nm (peak absorption for IRDye 800)

No lens - 40 mW with Hg and 50 mW with Halogen (3200K)
20x/0.45 Achroplan Ph2  - 50%T
40x/1.2 W C Apochromat - 60%T
63x/1.4 oil PlanApo - 42%T

There is a lot more light out there with the Hg than you might think even
though the Halogen is better. The %Ts at 740 nm are pretty similar to the
"typical" curves for these lenses found on the Zeiss website. The drop off
when going up to 774 nm was quite a bit more than expected.

Licor tech support does not have information on the power density of the
laser in the Odyssey but they thought it was pretty low. We put the power
meter in the Odyssey and never recorded more than 3 mW during the scan.

So compared to the Odyssey we have plenty of light.

Kate
Michael Weber-4 Michael Weber-4
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Kate,

what type of scanner is this Odyssey? If it's a point-scanning device,
then 3 mW per point is a lot (nice for FRET or FRAP). So you would have to
consider the amount of scanned pixels in your comparison, maybe 1024 times
1024... times 3 mW.

Michael


> Search the CONFOCAL archive at
> http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S1=confocal
>
> Thanks for all your helpful suggestions. I thought the following might be
> interesting:
>
> I used my laser power meter to check the power density for different
> lenses
> and light sources that we have.
>
> At 740 nm (Chroma SP-106 excitation filter is 740±35)
>
> No lens - 43 mW with Hg and 58 mW with Halogen (3200K)
> 20x/0.45 Achroplan Ph2  - 79%T
> 40x/1.2 W C Apochromat - 81%T
> 63x/1.4 oil PlanApo - 67%T
>
> At 774 nm (peak absorption for IRDye 800)
>
> No lens - 40 mW with Hg and 50 mW with Halogen (3200K)
> 20x/0.45 Achroplan Ph2  - 50%T
> 40x/1.2 W C Apochromat - 60%T
> 63x/1.4 oil PlanApo - 42%T
>
> There is a lot more light out there with the Hg than you might think even
> though the Halogen is better. The %Ts at 740 nm are pretty similar to the
> "typical" curves for these lenses found on the Zeiss website. The drop off
> when going up to 774 nm was quite a bit more than expected.
>
> Licor tech support does not have information on the power density of the
> laser in the Odyssey but they thought it was pretty low. We put the power
> meter in the Odyssey and never recorded more than 3 mW during the scan.
>
> So compared to the Odyssey we have plenty of light.
>
> Kate
Kate Luby-Phelps Kate Luby-Phelps
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You are absolutely right. I realized that after I had posted the previous
message. Probably it is point scanning although not diffraction limited.
Meanwhile, the FOV of the lens would be much larger. So the power density is
potentially much greater in the scanner. Thanks.

Kate