Csúcs Gábor-3 |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Dear All, I have just today learned about a new sCMOS camera with 29mm Field of View. With some of the new large FOV microscope bodies this really makes sense, but I was thinking about the vignetting effect that can be quite significant with such a large FOV. Of course, there are numerous computational methods how you can correct for this, but still the best way would be to have a more homogenous illumination. I am fully aware of some developments for laser-based systems (homogenizer for various spinning disk systems by various providers) but I was wondering whether anyone knows about a commercial homogenizer solution for wide-field systems (using e.g. LED light sources)? Thanks Gabor |
Sylvie Le Guyader |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** If I remember well the Nikon Ti2 has 32mm FOV with some vignetting and 25mm without. I wonder how it performs at 29. Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards Sylvie @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Sylvie Le Guyader, PhD Live Cell Imaging Facility Manager Karolinska Institutet- Bionut Dpt Blickagången 16, Room 7362 (lab)/7840 (office) 14157 Huddinge, Sweden mobile: +46 (0) 73 733 5008 LCI website LCI microscopy blog -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Csucs Gabor Sent: Thursday, 3 September, 2020 12:52 To: [hidden email] Subject: Illumination homogenizer for wide-field ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.umn.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fwa%3FA0%3Dconfocalmicroscopy&data=02%7C01%7Csylvie.le.guyader%40KI.SE%7C0124375d92144e93812608d84ff771de%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637347271470590245&sdata=sr3Ku7kLVrJgb5WGO3jagd0b7U9JdvRPGKJxjtsQspo%3D&reserved=0 Post images on https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imgur.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Csylvie.le.guyader%40KI.SE%7C0124375d92144e93812608d84ff771de%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637347271470590245&sdata=esphynsp0Sbi0P4OYyj0T%2BIclWNN%2FFdrx0rtZhPnAJY%3D&reserved=0 and include the link in your posting. ***** Dear All, I have just today learned about a new sCMOS camera with 29mm Field of View. With some of the new large FOV microscope bodies this really makes sense, but I was thinking about the vignetting effect that can be quite significant with such a large FOV. Of course, there are numerous computational methods how you can correct for this, but still the best way would be to have a more homogenous illumination. I am fully aware of some developments for laser-based systems (homogenizer for various spinning disk systems by various providers) but I was wondering whether anyone knows about a commercial homogenizer solution for wide-field systems (using e.g. LED light sources)? Thanks Gabor När du skickar e-post till Karolinska Institutet (KI) innebär detta att KI kommer att behandla dina personuppgifter. Här finns information om hur KI behandlar personuppgifter<https://ki.se/medarbetare/integritetsskyddspolicy>. Sending email to Karolinska Institutet (KI) will result in KI processing your personal data. You can read more about KI’s processing of personal data here<https://ki.se/en/staff/data-protection-policy>. |
Benjamin Smith |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** The key is to understand why there is the vignetting issue. Some of the vignetting is because as you increase the angle you approach the aperture of the objective, the narrower the narrower aperture gets. You can see this effect by simply looking straight down on the back of an objective, and then tilt it to one side and see how the effective back aperture gets smaller. With this in mind, the easiest way I know of to flatten illumination vignetting would be to have your illumination source underfill the back aperture of the objective. Of course, this also requires ensuring that the back focal plane is focused onto the back aperture of the objective. You could try this by closing the aperture stop in the reflected light path. That said, this would also decrease the illumination intensity. One other consideration is that underfilling the back aperture only solves one half of the vignetting equation, because the fluorescence collected by the objective will also be vingetted. This is for the exact same reason that the illumination gets vingetted, where when you increase the tilt of the back aperture (i.e. towards the edge of the FOV), the effective diameter of the back aperture is decreasing. For me, the optimal solution is the computational approach you hinted at where you simply take a high dynamic range reference image on a fluorescent test slide, and just divide your sample images by the reference image to get a perfect correction (this will even correct for specs of dust on the optics, camera sensor non-uniformities, etc.) The nice thing is you only need to do this once, and then you are good to go. If you are measuring objects near the optical resolution limit of the microscope, then you will also want to carefully measure the resolution at the corners of the FOV and apply a Gaussian blur to the whole image to ensure your resolution is isotropic across the FOV. This is because vignetting simultaneously reduces intensity and resolution, both of which should be corrected against for analysis. -Ben Smith On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 3:52 AM Csucs Gabor <[hidden email]> wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Dear All, > > I have just today learned about a new sCMOS camera with 29mm Field of > View. With some of the new large FOV microscope bodies this really makes > sense, but I was thinking about the vignetting effect that can be quite > significant with such a large FOV. Of course, there are numerous > computational methods how you can correct for this, but still the best way > would be to have a more homogenous illumination. I am fully aware of some > developments for laser-based systems (homogenizer for various spinning disk > systems by various providers) but I was wondering whether anyone knows > about a commercial homogenizer solution for wide-field systems (using e.g. > LED light sources)? > > Thanks Gabor > -- Benjamin E. Smith, Ph. D. Imaging Specialist, Vision Science University of California, Berkeley 195 Life Sciences Addition Berkeley, CA 94720-3200 Tel (510) 642-9712 Fax (510) 643-6791 e-mail: [hidden email] https://vision.berkeley.edu/faculty/core-grants-nei/core-grant-microscopic-imaging/ |
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