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Hi, All - I apologize for the non-confocal nature of this question, but I
cannot think of a better resource than this community. I am looking for
some sort of "tinting" or similar to minimize the laser exposure through a
clear plastic incubation chamber on a TIRF-based rig.  Our laser safety
officer suggested tinting would be okay, but I have no idea where to look
for that in custom sizes/amounts. Would window tinting for vehicles work?
Has anyone done this? Would love to hear your experience.

Thanks as always!
-Holly
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Cancer Research Laboratory
University of California Berkeley
251 LSA #2751
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Holly,

          I'm assuming you want to stop the exposure to the operator on an inverted microscope.  Is that correct?  Most inverted fluorescence microscopes already come with a plastic safety screen for that purpose - isn't that enough?  If not I'd suggest getting some theatrical plastic filter.  This comes in big sheets, is very cheap, and has guaranteed absorption spectra.  A yellow-orange tint should do the trick, but check the spectra to see that it will block your laser lines.  You can easily cut bits to fit, and replace them as often as necessary.    I can't see that window tint would do much since it's mainly designed to block IR.  

                                                Guy

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Hi, All - I apologize for the non-confocal nature of this question, but I cannot think of a better resource than this community. I am looking for some sort of "tinting" or similar to minimize the laser exposure through a clear plastic incubation chamber on a TIRF-based rig.  Our laser safety officer suggested tinting would be okay, but I have no idea where to look for that in custom sizes/amounts. Would window tinting for vehicles work?
Has anyone done this? Would love to hear your experience.

Thanks as always!
-Holly
___________________________
Holly L. Aaron
Molecular Imaging Center
Cancer Research Laboratory
University of California Berkeley
251 LSA #2751
Berkeley, CA  94720-2751
510.642.2901
510.642.5741 fax
[hidden email]
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What WL is the Laser?
You should probably be wearing Laser Safety Goggles.
If you are just trying to minimize scatter so you don't look at it then
window tint might work.
Do they make a tinted incubator that you can buy that is for your scope?
The local Autozone will have different shades of darkness to choose from,
$14

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Holly L. AARON <[hidden email]>wrote:

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> Hi, All - I apologize for the non-confocal nature of this question, but I
> cannot think of a better resource than this community. I am looking for
> some sort of "tinting" or similar to minimize the laser exposure through a
> clear plastic incubation chamber on a TIRF-based rig.  Our laser safety
> officer suggested tinting would be okay, but I have no idea where to look
> for that in custom sizes/amounts. Would window tinting for vehicles work?
> Has anyone done this? Would love to hear your experience.
>
> Thanks as always!
> -Holly
> ___________________________
> Holly L. Aaron
> Molecular Imaging Center
> Cancer Research Laboratory
> University of California Berkeley
> 251 LSA #2751
> Berkeley, CA  94720-2751
> 510.642.2901
> 510.642.5741 fax
> [hidden email]
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Great answer by Guy Cox,
Laser blocking theatrical Gel gets sold in sheets, just be sure to get a WL
that blocks your laser

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> Holly,
>
>           I'm assuming you want to stop the exposure to the operator on an
> inverted microscope.  Is that correct?  Most inverted fluorescence
> microscopes already come with a plastic safety screen for that purpose -
> isn't that enough?  If not I'd suggest getting some theatrical plastic
> filter.  This comes in big sheets, is very cheap, and has guaranteed
> absorption spectra.  A yellow-orange tint should do the trick, but check
> the spectra to see that it will block your laser lines.  You can easily cut
> bits to fit, and replace them as often as necessary.    I can't see that
> window tint would do much since it's mainly designed to block IR.
>
>                                                 Guy
>
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> On Behalf Of Holly L. AARON
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2013 3:30 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Not confocal question: Laser Shielding
>
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> Hi, All - I apologize for the non-confocal nature of this question, but I
> cannot think of a better resource than this community. I am looking for
> some sort of "tinting" or similar to minimize the laser exposure through a
> clear plastic incubation chamber on a TIRF-based rig.  Our laser safety
> officer suggested tinting would be okay, but I have no idea where to look
> for that in custom sizes/amounts. Would window tinting for vehicles work?
> Has anyone done this? Would love to hear your experience.
>
> Thanks as always!
> -Holly
> ___________________________
> Holly L. Aaron
> Molecular Imaging Center
> Cancer Research Laboratory
> University of California Berkeley
> 251 LSA #2751
> Berkeley, CA  94720-2751
> 510.642.2901
> 510.642.5741 fax
> [hidden email]
> http://imaging.berkeley.edu
>
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Unfortunately a tinted incubator was not ordered as part of this rig and it
is a rather complicated enclosure (lots of ins & outs) and took 3+ fittings
to get it to fit right, so while it would be relatively easy to replicate
now, I would rather not pay the additional expense (and have a useless
clear enclosure)... but that might be the best option.

The primary wavelengths that needs to be blocked are 561nm and 450nm (PALM
scope), but there are also several other wavelength lasers (458, 488, 514,
633nm), although the power is much less on those.

I will check out this theatrical filter - thanks for the idea, Guy!

(and yes, we have laser safety goggles for alignments)

Thanks,

-Holly

(transitioning to bMail...  thank you for your patience)

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Holly L. Aaron
Molecular Imaging Center
Cancer Research Laboratory
University of California Berkeley
251 LSA #2751
Berkeley, CA  94720-2751
510.642.2901
510.642.5741 fax
[hidden email]
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On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Gregg Jarvis <[hidden email]>wrote:

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> What WL is the Laser?
> You should probably be wearing Laser Safety Goggles.
> If you are just trying to minimize scatter so you don't look at it then
> window tint might work.
> Do they make a tinted incubator that you can buy that is for your scope?
> The local Autozone will have different shades of darkness to choose from,
> $14
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Holly L. AARON <[hidden email]
> >wrote:
>
> > *****
> > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
> > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy
> > *****
> >
> > Hi, All - I apologize for the non-confocal nature of this question, but I
> > cannot think of a better resource than this community. I am looking for
> > some sort of "tinting" or similar to minimize the laser exposure through
> a
> > clear plastic incubation chamber on a TIRF-based rig.  Our laser safety
> > officer suggested tinting would be okay, but I have no idea where to look
> > for that in custom sizes/amounts. Would window tinting for vehicles work?
> > Has anyone done this? Would love to hear your experience.
> >
> > Thanks as always!
> > -Holly
> > ___________________________
> > Holly L. Aaron
> > Molecular Imaging Center
> > Cancer Research Laboratory
> > University of California Berkeley
> > 251 LSA #2751
> > Berkeley, CA  94720-2751
> > 510.642.2901
> > 510.642.5741 fax
> > [hidden email]
> > http://imaging.berkeley.edu
> >
> > *
> > *
> >
>
>
>
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We have black plastic sheeting cut into pieces and velcroed on the outside of the box that we use for multiphoton.  You could completely enclose the box but use black tape instead of Velcro.

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Unfortunately a tinted incubator was not ordered as part of this rig and it is a rather complicated enclosure (lots of ins & outs) and took 3+ fittings to get it to fit right, so while it would be relatively easy to replicate now, I would rather not pay the additional expense (and have a useless clear enclosure)... but that might be the best option.

The primary wavelengths that needs to be blocked are 561nm and 450nm (PALM scope), but there are also several other wavelength lasers (458, 488, 514, 633nm), although the power is much less on those.

I will check out this theatrical filter - thanks for the idea, Guy!

(and yes, we have laser safety goggles for alignments)

Thanks,

-Holly

(transitioning to bMail...  thank you for your patience)

___________________________
Holly L. Aaron
Molecular Imaging Center
Cancer Research Laboratory
University of California Berkeley
251 LSA #2751
Berkeley, CA  94720-2751
510.642.2901
510.642.5741 fax
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On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Gregg Jarvis <[hidden email]>wrote:

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> What WL is the Laser?
> You should probably be wearing Laser Safety Goggles.
> If you are just trying to minimize scatter so you don't look at it
> then window tint might work.
> Do they make a tinted incubator that you can buy that is for your scope?
> The local Autozone will have different shades of darkness to choose
> from,
> $14
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Holly L. AARON <[hidden email]
> >wrote:
>
> > *****
> > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to:
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> > *****
> >
> > Hi, All - I apologize for the non-confocal nature of this question,
> > but I cannot think of a better resource than this community. I am
> > looking for some sort of "tinting" or similar to minimize the laser
> > exposure through
> a
> > clear plastic incubation chamber on a TIRF-based rig.  Our laser
> > safety officer suggested tinting would be okay, but I have no idea
> > where to look for that in custom sizes/amounts. Would window tinting for vehicles work?
> > Has anyone done this? Would love to hear your experience.
> >
> > Thanks as always!
> > -Holly
> > ___________________________
> > Holly L. Aaron
> > Molecular Imaging Center
> > Cancer Research Laboratory
> > University of California Berkeley
> > 251 LSA #2751
> > Berkeley, CA  94720-2751
> > 510.642.2901
> > 510.642.5741 fax
> > [hidden email]
> > http://imaging.berkeley.edu
> >
> > *
> > *
> >
>
>
>
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Hi Holly,

I'm not sure how your stage is set up, but we have a blockout plate that covers the stage and also acts as a laser interlock on our TIRF (Nikon N-STORM) system. However, we don't have an incubator. Would it be possible for you to enclose the sample within the incubator? It might be simpler than covering the incubator and would still have the advantage of blocking any stray room light (even light from the computer monitors gets picked up by our EMCCD if it isn't blocked).

And thanks Guy, for the theatrical filter tip. Very handy.

Cheers,

Ben


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Unfortunately a tinted incubator was not ordered as part of this rig and it
is a rather complicated enclosure (lots of ins & outs) and took 3+ fittings
to get it to fit right, so while it would be relatively easy to replicate
now, I would rather not pay the additional expense (and have a useless
clear enclosure)... but that might be the best option.

The primary wavelengths that needs to be blocked are 561nm and 450nm (PALM
scope), but there are also several other wavelength lasers (458, 488, 514,
633nm), although the power is much less on those.

I will check out this theatrical filter - thanks for the idea, Guy!

(and yes, we have laser safety goggles for alignments)

Thanks,

-Holly

(transitioning to bMail...  thank you for your patience)

___________________________
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Molecular Imaging Center
Cancer Research Laboratory
University of California Berkeley
251 LSA #2751
Berkeley, CA  94720-2751
510.642.2901
510.642.5741 fax
[hidden email]
http://imaging.berkeley.edu

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What WL is the Laser?
You should probably be wearing Laser Safety Goggles.
If you are just trying to minimize scatter so you don't look at it then
window tint might work.
Do they make a tinted incubator that you can buy that is for your scope?
The local Autozone will have different shades of darkness to choose from,
$14

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Hi, All - I apologize for the non-confocal nature of this question, but I
cannot think of a better resource than this community. I am looking for
some sort of "tinting" or similar to minimize the laser exposure through
a
clear plastic incubation chamber on a TIRF-based rig.  Our laser safety
officer suggested tinting would be okay, but I have no idea where to look
for that in custom sizes/amounts. Would window tinting for vehicles work?
Has anyone done this? Would love to hear your experience.

Thanks as always!
-Holly
___________________________
Holly L. Aaron
Molecular Imaging Center
Cancer Research Laboratory
University of California Berkeley
251 LSA #2751
Berkeley, CA  94720-2751
510.642.2901
510.642.5741 fax
[hidden email]
http://imaging.berkeley.edu

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