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Hi folks,

Does anyone know about a survey of internal user rates and budget support (% of operating budget from non-revenue sources) for imaging cores?  I’d be grateful for a link.  If no one’s done that lately and people are interested, I suppose I could set up an anonymous online poll.

Thanks and all the best!


T

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Department of Developmental Biology
University of Pittsburgh

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This has rate information:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/microscopy-today/article/microscopy-core-facilities-results-of-an-international-survey/E455098D5FCCA2CCB9629604F02145A8
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> Hi folks,
>
> Does anyone know about a survey of internal user rates and budget support
> (% of operating budget from non-revenue sources) for imaging cores?  I’d be
> grateful for a link.  If no one’s done that lately and people are
> interested, I suppose I could set up an anonymous online poll.
>
> Thanks and all the best!
>
>
> T
>
> Timothy Feinstein, Ph.D.
> Research Scientist
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> University of Pittsburgh
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Excellent survey, it would be interesting to see if things have changed since 2014. Furthermore it would be interesting to see how the staff numbers in core facilities  relate to number of users, training sessions, instruments, advanced techniques  and other activities like image analysis. 
best wishes
Andreas


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This has rate information:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/microscopy-today/article/microscopy-core-facilities-results-of-an-international-survey/E455098D5FCCA2CCB9629604F02145A8
Craig

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> Hi folks,
>
> Does anyone know about a survey of internal user rates and budget support
> (% of operating budget from non-revenue sources) for imaging cores?  I’d be
> grateful for a link.  If no one’s done that lately and people are
> interested, I suppose I could set up an anonymous online poll.
>
> Thanks and all the best!
>
>
> T
>
> Timothy Feinstein, Ph.D.
> Research Scientist
> Department of Developmental Biology
> University of Pittsburgh
>
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Hi Craig,

Thank you for the link!  Tables 2 and 4 are exactly what I was looking for.  With US inflation roughly 8% since 2014, I'd assume that the numbers are largely current.  

All the best,


T

Timothy Feinstein, Ph.D.
Research Scientist
Department of Developmental Biology
University of Pittsburgh

 


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    > *****
    >
    > Hi folks,
    >
    > Does anyone know about a survey of internal user rates and budget support
    > (% of operating budget from non-revenue sources) for imaging cores?  I’d be
    > grateful for a link.  If no one’s done that lately and people are
    > interested, I suppose I could set up an anonymous online poll.
    >
    > Thanks and all the best!
    >
    >
    > T
    >
    > Timothy Feinstein, Ph.D.
    > Research Scientist
    > Department of Developmental Biology
    > University of Pittsburgh
    >
    >
   

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excellent survey indeed, though I would like to see a break-down in Europe
according to countries as the funding mechanisms differ quite a lot!

For instance, the UK has "much" more funding available for cores via
multi-user grants and most of the funding comes from PI grants and as such
PIs are used to paying for the confocals.
In France, it appears the cores are heavily subsidsied (staff posts come
through CNRS mostly), and PIs would not like to pay FEC rates (or
equivalent) and tend to buy their own equipment if price exceed a
threshold.
Just as an example, in my former core in the UK, confocal was
~30-35GBP/hour; the cores I saw here in Paris region 20€ would be
considered expensive...

is an updated survey or a European survey planned? key word
EuroBioImaging???

Cheers

Debbi

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> Hi Craig,
>
> Thank you for the link!  Tables 2 and 4 are exactly what I was looking
> for.  With US inflation roughly 8% since 2014, I'd assume that the numbers
> are largely current.
>
> All the best,
>
>
> T
>
> Timothy Feinstein, Ph.D.
> Research Scientist
> Department of Developmental Biology
> University of Pittsburgh
>
>
>
>
> On 8/8/19, 6:47 PM, "Confocal Microscopy List on behalf of Craig Brideau"
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>     Craig
>
>     On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 1:25 PM Feinstein, Timothy N <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
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>     >
>     > Hi folks,
>     >
>     > Does anyone know about a survey of internal user rates and budget
> support
>     > (% of operating budget from non-revenue sources) for imaging cores?
> I’d be
>     > grateful for a link.  If no one’s done that lately and people are
>     > interested, I suppose I could set up an anonymous online poll.
>     >
>     > Thanks and all the best!
>     >
>     >
>     > T
>     >
>     > Timothy Feinstein, Ph.D.
>     > Research Scientist
>     > Department of Developmental Biology
>     > University of Pittsburgh
>     >
>     >
>
>
>
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Hi Debbi,

There is an ongoing survey, worldwide but heavily European based (in responses) that looks into Facility management and running costs etc.  This was organised for ELMI2019 by Roland Nitschke and Laurent Gelman:

https://miap.eu/special/elmi-cf-survey 

If your facility hasn't filled it in, you are encouraged to do so.

Regards,

Glyn
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this is fantastic, thanks!! (directly re-tweeted it and sent for
dissemination amongst our French members).
Cheers

Debbi

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> Hi Debbi,
>
> There is an ongoing survey, worldwide but heavily European based (in
> responses) that looks into Facility management and running costs etc.  This
> was organised for ELMI2019 by Roland Nitschke and Laurent Gelman:
>
> https://miap.eu/special/elmi-cf-survey
>
> If your facility hasn't filled it in, you are encouraged to do so.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glyn
>
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Dear all

On this topic, you might be interested in another listserv that we recently set up (from the UK) - as follows:

We have just set up the following forum for LM facility managers: Core LM Facilities Discussion Group

This list for those people involved in running Light Microscopy facilities, mainly in Universities. It is intended as an easy mechanism to help share knowledge and expertise, relevant to facility management etc.  It follows on discussions at ELMI and the list is supported by Cornela Cazey (BioImaging UK/RMS) and Claire Mitchell (Warwick).

The list is intended for people to share problems and ideas related to running a core facility such as :

Quality control,

career progression,

equipment,

maintenance,

experimental

To join the list please go to: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=LMFACILITIES&A=1
  You can then complete your details to join the list.
- Your can also join the list by sending an email to [hidden email]
with the Subject: Subscribe
and Message: SUBSCRIBE LMFACILITIES Firstname Lastname

all best

Michelle



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    this is fantastic, thanks!! (directly re-tweeted it and sent for
    dissemination amongst our French members).
    Cheers
   
    Debbi
   
    On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:42 AM Glyn Nelson <[hidden email]> wrote:
   
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    > *****
    >
    > Hi Debbi,
    >
    > There is an ongoing survey, worldwide but heavily European based (in
    > responses) that looks into Facility management and running costs etc.  This
    > was organised for ELMI2019 by Roland Nitschke and Laurent Gelman:
    >
    > https://miap.eu/special/elmi-cf-survey
    >
    > If your facility hasn't filled it in, you are encouraged to do so.
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Glyn
    >