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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi All, We are looking in to getting a SIM system and see that the room requirements are really strict, +/- 0.5 deg C. This would require significant room modification (possibly several $100K worth). +/- 1.0 deg C is more doable. What is the consensus out there? How necessary is +/- 0.5? Can anyone comment who has experience running their system in a room outside of spec (even temporarily)? Thanks, Ben |
Sven Terclavers-3 |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi Ben, Those data are generally required at factory in a 'sealed' room, so don't worry too much! +/- 1.0 deg C is for sure ok! Just make sure there's no draft going straight onto the system, which could create vibrations! Best regards, Sven -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Benjamin Abrams Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 2:18 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: SIM environment requirements ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi All, We are looking in to getting a SIM system and see that the room requirements are really strict, +/- 0.5 deg C. This would require significant room modification (possibly several $100K worth). +/- 1.0 deg C is more doable. What is the consensus out there? How necessary is +/- 0.5? Can anyone comment who has experience running their system in a room outside of spec (even temporarily)? Thanks, Ben |
Andreas Bruckbauer |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi Ben, In my experience the critical point is the sample drifting in the first 20 min after being put on the stage. Then the microscope heating up. We have a combined SIM/PALM system where we changed the cameras to water cooling to prevent this. I would expect temperature fluctuations in the room of plus minus 1 degree to be fine and occasionally our air-conditioning does not manage to cope, but the images are still good. Multi-colour beads in the sample help to align the different channels. Best wishes Andreas -----Original Message----- From: "Benjamin Abrams" <[hidden email]> Sent: 04/02/2015 19:20 To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Subject: SIM environment requirements ***** To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi All, We are looking in to getting a SIM system and see that the room requirements are really strict, +/- 0.5 deg C. This would require significant room modification (possibly several $100K worth). +/- 1.0 deg C is more doable. What is the consensus out there? How necessary is +/- 0.5? Can anyone comment who has experience running their system in a room outside of spec (even temporarily)? Thanks, Ben |
Alison J. North |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Hi Ben, Which SIM system are you considering? We have an OMX in a room that - despite their assurances to me when designing it - sadly does fluctuate by more than 1 degree. I would say that our room temperature is generally somewhere between 22 and 25 degrees (or so the software says - has to be a lie, we are bundled up in coats in there it's so cold!), but it's the rate of change that seems to be critical. We find that if the temperature changes by 1 degree, you have to change the oil to the next refractive index one e.g. from 1.512 to 1.514. So if it takes several hours to change by that much, it's not really a problem, you'll probably have finished your session by then or at least moved onto another sample and can use a different oil. But if it fluctuates by a degree in less than an hour you may drive yourself crazy constantly taking your sample off to change the oil. Of course this will not be at all relevant to the Zeiss or Nikon systems, which don't come with a big range of r.i. oils - that is why I asked which system you're talking about. Hope that helps... All the best, Alison On 2/4/2015 2:17 PM, Benjamin Abrams wrote: > ***** > To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy > Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. > ***** > > Hi All, > > We are looking in to getting a SIM system and see that the room requirements > are really strict, +/- 0.5 deg C. This would require significant room > modification (possibly several $100K worth). +/- 1.0 deg C is more doable. > What is the consensus out there? How necessary is +/- 0.5? Can anyone > comment who has experience running their system in a room outside of spec > (even temporarily)? > > Thanks, > Ben -- Alison J. North, Ph.D., Senior Director of the Bio-Imaging Resource Center and Research Associate Professor, The Rockefeller University, 1230 York Avenue, New York, NY 10065. Tel: office ++ 212 327 7488 Tel: lab ++ 212 327 7486 Fax: ++ 212 327 7489 |
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To join, leave or search the confocal microscopy listserv, go to: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=confocalmicroscopy Post images on http://www.imgur.com and include the link in your posting. ***** Thanks to everyone who replied to my post. I appreciate the information! |
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