Hi,
sorry for the practical and banal question.... Where do you buy the nail polish??at the grocery? if yes, is there in Europe a brand that you can suggest me.... is there any supplier on the web? Thanks Valeria |
Hi Valeria,
I recommend to buy different brands of nail hardener (non-fluorescing) at a beauty shop or grocery store and do a brief test with each brand: fix a cover slip on a slide with the nail hardener (like you prepare your sample). Let dry overnight, and put under water next day. The one prep dissolving latest (or not at all) will be the best one. This test really pays off in my experience. Best, Guenter ------------------------------------------ Dr. Guenter Giese Light Microscopy Facility Manager Dept. of Biomedical Optics MPI fuer Medizinische Forschung Jahnstr. 29 D-69120 Heidelberg, Germany Phone (+49) 6221-486-360 (Fax: -325) e-mail: [hidden email] > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Confocal Microscopy List > [mailto:[hidden email]] Im Auftrag von Valeria Berno > Gesendet: Montag, 16. März 2009 10:15 > An: [hidden email] > Betreff: nail polish > > Hi, > > sorry for the practical and banal question.... > > Where do you buy the nail polish??at the grocery? if yes, is > there in Europe a brand that you can suggest me.... > is there any supplier on the web? > > > Thanks > > Valeria > |
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Valeria-
If you want it for mounting samples for fluorescence microscopy, it would be wise to buy good quality nail polish at the beauty parlor. The cheap stuff sold in the grocery store has a solvent that will destroy your fluorochrome, or maybe the whole cell depending on the concentration that diffuses underneath your coverslips. Carol Heckman Bowling Green State University ________________________________________ From: Confocal Microscopy List [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Valeria Berno [[hidden email]] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:14 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: nail polish Hi, sorry for the practical and banal question.... Where do you buy the nail polish??at the grocery? if yes, is there in Europe a brand that you can suggest me.... is there any supplier on the web? Thanks Valeria |
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Valencia-
The last time I picked some up nail polish I had such a hard time finding one that did not have some form of plasticizer or other additive in it that gave me serious autofluorescence problems. I ended up going to the hardware and buying a small container of clear lacquer (usually in the paint/wood stain aisle) instead, and decanting it into many small nail-polish type bottles. Much cheaper per ounce and weirdly enough in the US at least all ingredients are clearly identified in the hardware product but not on the beauty product. It seems to work fine for fixed samples, caveat is that the solvent in either product is bad news for live-cell work. For live cells, I'd recommend using "valap", a 1:1:1 homebrew mixture of vaseline, lanolin, and parrafin. Scott -- J. Scott Gens, Ph.D. Biocomplexity Institute Indiana University Physics Office: Room 047H, Simon Interdisciplinary Sciences Bldg. Multi-photon Confocal: 063 Swain Hall West. Bloomington IN 47405 812-855-7946 [hidden email] Quoting Valeria Berno <[hidden email]>: > Hi, > > sorry for the practical and banal question.... > > Where do you buy the nail polish??at the grocery? if yes, is there in > Europe a brand that you can suggest me.... > is there any supplier on the web? > > > Thanks > > Valeria > |
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Hi Valeria,
We usually get a brand name clear nail polish from the pharmacy/grocery (Whatever is on sale!). The current one we use is Revlon and works great (no commercial interest). Do not remember what I used in Europe, but kept the same rule. Just stay away from the cheap ones. Best Ivan Ivan Todorov, Ph.D. Department of Diabetes, Endocrinology and Metabolism City of Hope 1500 Duarte Rd Duarte, CA 91010 tel: 626-359-8111 ext 65538 fax: 626-301-8136 email: [hidden email] -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Valeria Berno Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:15 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: nail polish Hi, sorry for the practical and banal question.... Where do you buy the nail polish??at the grocery? if yes, is there in Europe a brand that you can suggest me.... is there any supplier on the web? Thanks Valeria --------------------------------------------------------------------- SECURITY/CONFIDENTIALITY WARNING: This message and any attachments are intended solely for the individual or entity to which they are addressed. This communication may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or exempt from disclosure under applicable law (e.g., personal health information, research data, financial information). Because this e-mail has been sent without encryption, individuals other than the intended recipient may be able to view the information, forward it to others or tamper with the information without the knowledge or consent of the sender. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or person responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying of the communication is strictly prohibited. If you received the communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting the message and any accompanying files from your system. If, due to the security risks, you do not wish to receive further communications via e-mail, please reply to this message and inform the sender that you do not wish to receive further e-mail from the sender. --------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Scott - a great idea re. nail polish! I usually go down to the $2 shop and
get 10 of whatever brand's on special (as long as it's colourless). cheers, Rosemary Rosemary White CSIRO Plant Industry GPO Box 1600 Canberra, ACT 2601 Australia ph 61 2 6246 5475 fx 61 2 6246 5334 On 18/03/09 4:44 AM, "J. Scott Gens, PhD" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Valencia- > > The last time I picked some up nail polish I had such a hard time > finding one that did not have some form of plasticizer or other > additive in it that gave me serious autofluorescence problems. I ended > up going to the hardware and buying a small container of clear lacquer > (usually in the paint/wood stain aisle) instead, and decanting it into > many small nail-polish type bottles. Much cheaper per ounce and weirdly > enough in the US at least all ingredients are clearly identified in the > hardware product but not on the beauty product. > > It seems to work fine for fixed samples, caveat is that the solvent in > either product is bad news for live-cell work. For live cells, I'd > recommend using "valap", a 1:1:1 homebrew mixture of vaseline, lanolin, > and parrafin. > > Scott > > -- > J. Scott Gens, Ph.D. > Biocomplexity Institute > Indiana University Physics > Office: Room 047H, Simon Interdisciplinary Sciences Bldg. > Multi-photon Confocal: 063 Swain Hall West. > Bloomington IN 47405 > 812-855-7946 > [hidden email] > > > > Quoting Valeria Berno <[hidden email]>: > >> Hi, >> >> sorry for the practical and banal question.... >> >> Where do you buy the nail polish??at the grocery? if yes, is there in >> Europe a brand that you can suggest me.... >> is there any supplier on the web? >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Valeria >> |
Why use colourless? I usually use something nice and bright, so that you can see at a glance that the slide is sealed. It also gives you immediate warning when you are getting close to the edge of the coverslip. Mind you I do sometimes get funny looks when people see blue and orange nail polish bottles on my desk!
Guy Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology by Guy Cox CRC Press / Taylor & Francis http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm ______________________________________________ Associate Professor Guy Cox, MA, DPhil(Oxon) Electron Microscope Unit, Madsen Building F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006 ______________________________________________ Phone +61 2 9351 3176 Fax +61 2 9351 7682 Mobile 0413 281 861 ______________________________________________ http://www.guycox.net -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rosemary White Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 8:45 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: nail polish Scott - a great idea re. nail polish! I usually go down to the $2 shop and get 10 of whatever brand's on special (as long as it's colourless). cheers, Rosemary Rosemary White CSIRO Plant Industry GPO Box 1600 Canberra, ACT 2601 Australia ph 61 2 6246 5475 fx 61 2 6246 5334 On 18/03/09 4:44 AM, "J. Scott Gens, PhD" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Valencia- > > The last time I picked some up nail polish I had such a hard time > finding one that did not have some form of plasticizer or other > additive in it that gave me serious autofluorescence problems. I > ended up going to the hardware and buying a small container of clear > lacquer (usually in the paint/wood stain aisle) instead, and decanting > it into many small nail-polish type bottles. Much cheaper per ounce > and weirdly enough in the US at least all ingredients are clearly > identified in the hardware product but not on the beauty product. > > It seems to work fine for fixed samples, caveat is that the solvent in > either product is bad news for live-cell work. For live cells, I'd > recommend using "valap", a 1:1:1 homebrew mixture of vaseline, > lanolin, and parrafin. > > Scott > > -- > J. Scott Gens, Ph.D. > Biocomplexity Institute > Indiana University Physics > Office: Room 047H, Simon Interdisciplinary Sciences Bldg. > Multi-photon Confocal: 063 Swain Hall West. > Bloomington IN 47405 > 812-855-7946 > [hidden email] > > > > Quoting Valeria Berno <[hidden email]>: > >> Hi, >> >> sorry for the practical and banal question.... >> >> Where do you buy the nail polish??at the grocery? if yes, is there in >> Europe a brand that you can suggest me.... >> is there any supplier on the web? >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Valeria >> No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2005 - Release Date: 16/03/2009 7:01 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2008 - Release Date: 17/03/2009 4:25 PM |
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I like quick drying dark colors. My favorite brand is "Paint & Go": paint your slides, then go to the microscope 5 min later.
Michael J. Schell, Ph.D., CIV, USUHS Assist. Professor Dept. of Pharmacology Uniformed Services University 4301 Jones Bridge Rd. Bethesda, MD 20814-3220 tel: (301) 295-3249 [hidden email] >>> Guy Cox <[hidden email]> 03/17/09 7:11 PM >>> Why use colourless? I usually use something nice and bright, so that you can see at a glance that the slide is sealed. It also gives you immediate warning when you are getting close to the edge of the coverslip. Mind you I do sometimes get funny looks when people see blue and orange nail polish bottles on my desk! Guy Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology by Guy Cox CRC Press / Taylor & Francis http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm ______________________________________________ Associate Professor Guy Cox, MA, DPhil(Oxon) Electron Microscope Unit, Madsen Building F09, University of Sydney, NSW 2006 ______________________________________________ Phone +61 2 9351 3176 Fax +61 2 9351 7682 Mobile 0413 281 861 ______________________________________________ http://www.guycox.net -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rosemary White Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 8:45 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: nail polish Scott - a great idea re. nail polish! I usually go down to the $2 shop and get 10 of whatever brand's on special (as long as it's colourless). cheers, Rosemary Rosemary White CSIRO Plant Industry GPO Box 1600 Canberra, ACT 2601 Australia ph 61 2 6246 5475 fx 61 2 6246 5334 On 18/03/09 4:44 AM, "J. Scott Gens, PhD" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Valencia- > > The last time I picked some up nail polish I had such a hard time > finding one that did not have some form of plasticizer or other > additive in it that gave me serious autofluorescence problems. I > ended up going to the hardware and buying a small container of clear > lacquer (usually in the paint/wood stain aisle) instead, and decanting > it into many small nail-polish type bottles. Much cheaper per ounce > and weirdly enough in the US at least all ingredients are clearly > identified in the hardware product but not on the beauty product. > > It seems to work fine for fixed samples, caveat is that the solvent in > either product is bad news for live-cell work. For live cells, I'd > recommend using "valap", a 1:1:1 homebrew mixture of vaseline, > lanolin, and parrafin. > > Scott > > -- > J. Scott Gens, Ph.D. > Biocomplexity Institute > Indiana University Physics > Office: Room 047H, Simon Interdisciplinary Sciences Bldg. > Multi-photon Confocal: 063 Swain Hall West. > Bloomington IN 47405 > 812-855-7946 > [hidden email] > > > > Quoting Valeria Berno <[hidden email]>: > >> Hi, >> >> sorry for the practical and banal question.... >> >> Where do you buy the nail polish??at the grocery? if yes, is there in >> Europe a brand that you can suggest me.... >> is there any supplier on the web? >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Valeria >> No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2005 - Release Date: 16/03/2009 7:01 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2008 - Release Date: 17/03/2009 4:25 PM |
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I could not agree more! I like to us different colors, depending on
my mood of course. Sent from my iPod On Mar 17, 2009, at 7:10 PM, "Guy Cox" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Why use colourless? I usually use something nice and bright, so > that you can see at a glance that the slide is sealed. It also > gives you immediate warning when you are getting close to the edge > of the coverslip. Mind you I do sometimes get funny looks when > people see blue and orange nail polish bottles on my desk! > > Guy > > > > Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology > by Guy Cox CRC Press / Taylor & Francis > http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm > ______________________________________________ > Associate Professor Guy Cox, MA, DPhil(Oxon) > Electron Microscope Unit, Madsen Building F09, > University of Sydney, NSW 2006 > ______________________________________________ > Phone +61 2 9351 3176 Fax +61 2 9351 7682 > Mobile 0413 281 861 > ______________________________________________ > http://www.guycox.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email] > ] On Behalf Of Rosemary White > Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 8:45 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: nail polish > > Scott - a great idea re. nail polish! I usually go down to the $2 > shop and get 10 of whatever brand's on special (as long as it's > colourless). > cheers, > Rosemary > > Rosemary White > CSIRO Plant Industry > GPO Box 1600 > Canberra, ACT 2601 > Australia > > ph 61 2 6246 5475 > fx 61 2 6246 5334 > > > > On 18/03/09 4:44 AM, "J. Scott Gens, PhD" <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Valencia- >> >> The last time I picked some up nail polish I had such a hard time >> finding one that did not have some form of plasticizer or other >> additive in it that gave me serious autofluorescence problems. I >> ended up going to the hardware and buying a small container of clear >> lacquer (usually in the paint/wood stain aisle) instead, and >> decanting >> it into many small nail-polish type bottles. Much cheaper per ounce >> and weirdly enough in the US at least all ingredients are clearly >> identified in the hardware product but not on the beauty product. >> >> It seems to work fine for fixed samples, caveat is that the solvent >> in >> either product is bad news for live-cell work. For live cells, I'd >> recommend using "valap", a 1:1:1 homebrew mixture of vaseline, >> lanolin, and parrafin. >> >> Scott >> >> -- >> J. Scott Gens, Ph.D. >> Biocomplexity Institute >> Indiana University Physics >> Office: Room 047H, Simon Interdisciplinary Sciences Bldg. >> Multi-photon Confocal: 063 Swain Hall West. >> Bloomington IN 47405 >> 812-855-7946 >> [hidden email] >> >> >> >> Quoting Valeria Berno <[hidden email]>: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> sorry for the practical and banal question.... >>> >>> Where do you buy the nail polish??at the grocery? if yes, is there >>> in >>> Europe a brand that you can suggest me.... >>> is there any supplier on the web? >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Valeria >>> > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2005 - Release Date: > 16/03/2009 7:01 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2008 - Release Date: > 17/03/2009 4:25 PM > |
Well, I used to get the colourful ones, then had a batch that leaked colour
into the preparation, so have stuck to the boring clear stuff ever since.... On 18/03/09 10:27 AM, "Maddox Paul" <[hidden email]> wrote: > I could not agree more! I like to us different colors, depending on > my mood of course. > > Sent from my iPod > > On Mar 17, 2009, at 7:10 PM, "Guy Cox" <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Why use colourless? I usually use something nice and bright, so >> that you can see at a glance that the slide is sealed. It also >> gives you immediate warning when you are getting close to the edge >> of the coverslip. Mind you I do sometimes get funny looks when >> people see blue and orange nail polish bottles on my desk! >> >> Guy >> >> >> >> Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology >> by Guy Cox CRC Press / Taylor & Francis >> http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm >> ______________________________________________ >> Associate Professor Guy Cox, MA, DPhil(Oxon) >> Electron Microscope Unit, Madsen Building F09, >> University of Sydney, NSW 2006 >> ______________________________________________ >> Phone +61 2 9351 3176 Fax +61 2 9351 7682 >> Mobile 0413 281 861 >> ______________________________________________ >> http://www.guycox.net >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email] >> ] On Behalf Of Rosemary White >> Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 8:45 AM >> To: [hidden email] >> Subject: Re: nail polish >> >> Scott - a great idea re. nail polish! I usually go down to the $2 >> shop and get 10 of whatever brand's on special (as long as it's >> colourless). >> cheers, >> Rosemary >> >> Rosemary White >> CSIRO Plant Industry >> GPO Box 1600 >> Canberra, ACT 2601 >> Australia >> >> ph 61 2 6246 5475 >> fx 61 2 6246 5334 >> >> >> >> On 18/03/09 4:44 AM, "J. Scott Gens, PhD" <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Valencia- >>> >>> The last time I picked some up nail polish I had such a hard time >>> finding one that did not have some form of plasticizer or other >>> additive in it that gave me serious autofluorescence problems. I >>> ended up going to the hardware and buying a small container of clear >>> lacquer (usually in the paint/wood stain aisle) instead, and >>> decanting >>> it into many small nail-polish type bottles. Much cheaper per ounce >>> and weirdly enough in the US at least all ingredients are clearly >>> identified in the hardware product but not on the beauty product. >>> >>> It seems to work fine for fixed samples, caveat is that the solvent >>> in >>> either product is bad news for live-cell work. For live cells, I'd >>> recommend using "valap", a 1:1:1 homebrew mixture of vaseline, >>> lanolin, and parrafin. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> -- >>> J. Scott Gens, Ph.D. >>> Biocomplexity Institute >>> Indiana University Physics >>> Office: Room 047H, Simon Interdisciplinary Sciences Bldg. >>> Multi-photon Confocal: 063 Swain Hall West. >>> Bloomington IN 47405 >>> 812-855-7946 >>> [hidden email] >>> >>> >>> >>> Quoting Valeria Berno <[hidden email]>: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> sorry for the practical and banal question.... >>>> >>>> Where do you buy the nail polish??at the grocery? if yes, is there >>>> in >>>> Europe a brand that you can suggest me.... >>>> is there any supplier on the web? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Valeria >>>> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2005 - Release Date: >> 16/03/2009 7:01 PM >> >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2008 - Release Date: >> 17/03/2009 4:25 PM >> |
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We tend to use 'long wearing' and 'double duty' types, generally always
clear, although we have a Goth black that can help with thickness of application [you can tell if you missed a bit]. Never noticed it bleeding colour, but you can see when it's been drawn under the cover-slip [less easy to see that with clear]. It also helps you to avoid the varnish with immersion oil using our inverted microscopes [we still use clear varnish mainly though]. The anti-fade mountant we use is generally Vectashield + DAPI [non setting]. Our brands seem to be Sally Hansen and NYC, chosen probably fairly randomly from the cosmetics section, rather than buying from say Agar Scientific. I have used stuff like red engine [car] enamel paint for sealing very thick specimens under cover-slip [forgotten the name of the product at the moment]. Keith --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Keith J. Morris, Molecular Cytogenetics and Microscopy Core, Laboratory 00/069 and 00/070, The Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics, Roosevelt Drive, Oxford OX3 7BN, United Kingdom. Telephone: +44 (0)1865 287568 Email: [hidden email] Web-pages: http://www.well.ox.ac.uk/cytogenetics/ -----Original Message----- From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rosemary White Sent: 17 March 2009 23:57 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: nail polish Well, I used to get the colourful ones, then had a batch that leaked colour into the preparation, so have stuck to the boring clear stuff ever since.... On 18/03/09 10:27 AM, "Maddox Paul" <[hidden email]> wrote: > I could not agree more! I like to us different colors, depending on > my mood of course. > > Sent from my iPod > > On Mar 17, 2009, at 7:10 PM, "Guy Cox" <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Why use colourless? I usually use something nice and bright, so >> that you can see at a glance that the slide is sealed. It also >> gives you immediate warning when you are getting close to the edge >> of the coverslip. Mind you I do sometimes get funny looks when >> people see blue and orange nail polish bottles on my desk! >> >> Guy >> >> >> >> Optical Imaging Techniques in Cell Biology >> by Guy Cox CRC Press / Taylor & Francis >> http://www.guycox.com/optical.htm >> ______________________________________________ >> Associate Professor Guy Cox, MA, DPhil(Oxon) >> Electron Microscope Unit, Madsen Building F09, >> University of Sydney, NSW 2006 >> ______________________________________________ >> Phone +61 2 9351 3176 Fax +61 2 9351 7682 >> Mobile 0413 281 861 >> ______________________________________________ >> http://www.guycox.net >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Confocal Microscopy List [mailto:[hidden email] >> ] On Behalf Of Rosemary White >> Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 8:45 AM >> To: [hidden email] >> Subject: Re: nail polish >> >> Scott - a great idea re. nail polish! I usually go down to the $2 >> shop and get 10 of whatever brand's on special (as long as it's >> colourless). >> cheers, >> Rosemary >> >> Rosemary White >> CSIRO Plant Industry >> GPO Box 1600 >> Canberra, ACT 2601 >> Australia >> >> ph 61 2 6246 5475 >> fx 61 2 6246 5334 >> >> >> >> On 18/03/09 4:44 AM, "J. Scott Gens, PhD" <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Valencia- >>> >>> The last time I picked some up nail polish I had such a hard time >>> finding one that did not have some form of plasticizer or other >>> additive in it that gave me serious autofluorescence problems. I >>> ended up going to the hardware and buying a small container of clear >>> lacquer (usually in the paint/wood stain aisle) instead, and >>> decanting >>> it into many small nail-polish type bottles. Much cheaper per ounce >>> and weirdly enough in the US at least all ingredients are clearly >>> identified in the hardware product but not on the beauty product. >>> >>> It seems to work fine for fixed samples, caveat is that the solvent >>> in >>> either product is bad news for live-cell work. For live cells, I'd >>> recommend using "valap", a 1:1:1 homebrew mixture of vaseline, >>> lanolin, and parrafin. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> -- >>> J. Scott Gens, Ph.D. >>> Biocomplexity Institute >>> Indiana University Physics >>> Office: Room 047H, Simon Interdisciplinary Sciences Bldg. >>> Multi-photon Confocal: 063 Swain Hall West. >>> Bloomington IN 47405 >>> 812-855-7946 >>> [hidden email] >>> >>> >>> >>> Quoting Valeria Berno <[hidden email]>: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> sorry for the practical and banal question.... >>>> >>>> Where do you buy the nail polish??at the grocery? if yes, is there >>>> in >>>> Europe a brand that you can suggest me.... >>>> is there any supplier on the web? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Valeria >>>> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2005 - Release Date: >> 16/03/2009 7:01 PM >> >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2008 - Release Date: >> 17/03/2009 4:25 PM >> |
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